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Fiddlerdragon · 24/07/2024 22:01

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 21:55

Oh ffs. Being slightly less shit than America really wasn't the point I was making. By saying this is okay you're encouraging behaviour just like that. Would you be happy if the police starting killing people at the drop of a hat? Honestly?

Yes, that’s exactly the same thing

Jollylollylee · 24/07/2024 22:02

Cadela · 24/07/2024 21:32

Kicking someone in the head is not robust policing. For fucks sake the people on here need to stop being such wet bootlickers.

Obviously if you’re going to attack police you need to be restrained. No police officer in the world should be kicking someone in the head whilst on the floor. That’s grievous bodily harm, or even attempted manslaughter.

Exactly. Horrendous.

meemawww · 24/07/2024 22:09

I work at the airport. If you saw the way some passengers behave towards police and other staff to be honest you'd understand people losing control. I've been called a racist fucking cunt because I wouldn't let a Middle Eastern family sit in a table service restaurant with food from another establishment and they actually got in my face. I've called security a few times on aggressive people. I can quite believe there is a lot more than just that one video

LateDecemberLove · 24/07/2024 22:10

How are people justifying a police officer who can't control their temper?
Of course the conduct of the man prior sounds disgusting and reasonable force should be used to detain him but it looks like he was detained and In no position to do further damage when a police officer kicks his head in.

I dont want police officers in the job who cant control themselves, its dangerous.

AzureAnt · 24/07/2024 22:16

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PennyBob · 24/07/2024 22:22

Are people mad?

Police officers aren't allowed to just take revenge because their colleagues were assaulted. They can't just go around kicking people in the face when they're on the floor. Do you know how many police officers are assaulted every year? A lot! If every one of them took their chance at a boot to the head there'd likely be a few deaths and a lot if serious injuries in custody every year.

Police officers are meant to be calm, professional, and should deal with the situation at hand appropriately with only necessary force. The courts are the ones who dish out punishments.

Female, ex police, never kicked anyone in the head (or anywhere).

Deebee90 · 24/07/2024 22:23

I work in this airport and the police officers completely lost control. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. Those guys didn’t deserve what happened to them.

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:23

meemawww · 24/07/2024 22:09

I work at the airport. If you saw the way some passengers behave towards police and other staff to be honest you'd understand people losing control. I've been called a racist fucking cunt because I wouldn't let a Middle Eastern family sit in a table service restaurant with food from another establishment and they actually got in my face. I've called security a few times on aggressive people. I can quite believe there is a lot more than just that one video

Again, two wrongs don't make a right.

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:24

Fiddlerdragon · 24/07/2024 22:01

Yes, that’s exactly the same thing

Irs where behaviour like this ends up. He could have killed him, easily.

OliveTheaBough · 24/07/2024 22:26

Context is everything - obviously none of us knows the full detail, but if, for example, they believed these men to be immediate terrorist threat, I’d want my police officers to do whatever they felt was appropriate.

but looking at that short clip, it seems unnecessarily violent against suspect already tasered and on the ground.

sanogo · 24/07/2024 22:26

I've read that the female officer now has a broken nose

Scum need a taste of their own medicine

Puggup · 24/07/2024 22:29

There is a lot of context missing, but regardless, it isn't ever acceptable to kick someone in the head repeatedly when they're already on the floor. It can be true that the actions of these men towards the 3 police officers they attacked to the extent they needed hospital treatment is deplorable, and that the actions of that officer was disgraceful.

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:30

sanogo · 24/07/2024 22:26

I've read that the female officer now has a broken nose

Scum need a taste of their own medicine

Blimey what with the prison crisis why has nobody thought of this before? Let's do away with the criminal justice system and beat them all to death. Pure unfiltered genius. Cannot believe that this perfect solution has been bypassed for all these years.

WorriedMama12 · 24/07/2024 22:32

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 21:46

And then when it progresses to "some rat" who the police presumed to do something worse than they did? And then when its "some rat" whos innocent? And then when it's "some rat" who they don't like the gender or race of?

That all okay? Because you allow and endorse this and that's what happens. Look at America. Do you want that? I certainly don't.

Innocent? I'm sure the officers who he assaulted pointed out the man who did it to them, not sure how he can be innocent?

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:33

WorriedMama12 · 24/07/2024 22:32

Innocent? I'm sure the officers who he assaulted pointed out the man who did it to them, not sure how he can be innocent?

Read it again. I didn't say he was innocent.

WorriedMama12 · 24/07/2024 22:34

Deebee90 · 24/07/2024 22:23

I work in this airport and the police officers completely lost control. Absolutely disgusting and shameful. Those guys didn’t deserve what happened to them.

The guys who broke the female officers nose?

WorriedMama12 · 24/07/2024 22:38

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:33

Read it again. I didn't say he was innocent.

I'm perfectly aware you didn't say he was innocent thank you. However we're (or at least I was) talking about this specific incident. And in this specific incident, which the guy isn't innocent, I couldn't care less about him getting his head kicked.

Ottervision · 24/07/2024 22:39

WorriedMama12 · 24/07/2024 22:38

I'm perfectly aware you didn't say he was innocent thank you. However we're (or at least I was) talking about this specific incident. And in this specific incident, which the guy isn't innocent, I couldn't care less about him getting his head kicked.

Okay, good for you. How will you feel when, because everyone is saying it's okay this time, next time someone innocent gets their head kicked in? Where do you draw the line, exactly?

Renamed · 24/07/2024 22:40

Nobody is saying assault on the police was right. Nobody is saying this guy shouldn’t have been arrested and restrained. They are saying it is wrong, dangerous, illegal, to kick a prone suspect in the head. I can’t believe anyone is disagreeing with this, or saying it is somehow explained by the fact the guy needed to be arrested with necessary force. This was clearly unnecessary.

Appalonia · 24/07/2024 22:40

That's out of order, regardless of what those men had done. Shocking to see how many pp are celebrating the actions of those officers on Twitter. That looks more like revenge and uncontrolled aggression than good policing ( tho tbh I haven't seen footage of what happened before, but still dont think it will excuse that )

LadyChilli · 24/07/2024 22:41

Context is indeed important. The police are out of control and believe (often backed up by experience) that they can get away with whatever appalling behaviour they choose The statement "the use of such force in an arrest is highly unusual" made me roll my eyes. It being captured on film is more unusual. That's the context. There might be decent officers out there but it's no surprise trust in the police is so low, even in a predominantly middle class law abiding group like mumsnet users.

Abhannmor · 24/07/2024 22:42

Peterbeardwy · 24/07/2024 21:32

If it stops an already violent man grabbing an officer’s gun and using it on members of the public in a busy airport then I seriously don’t give a fuck

How can he grab a gun. He is face down on the floor ffs. Is 'Context' the UK version of ' stand your ground ' or 'I felt threatened '? I'd have every sympathy with this officer if he was actually being threatened incidentally.

TheFairyCaravan · 24/07/2024 22:49

I hope to god they never allow that policeman back on duty with a gun. He’s showed he can’t control himself and is undisciplined in his behaviour. I hope he gets the sack, tbh.

GoldCat255 · 24/07/2024 22:51

Given the context that has surfaced later, I believe that is reasonable use of force.
Well done!

Gummybear23 · 24/07/2024 22:53

RookieMa · 24/07/2024 21:30

It's shown completely out of context as per usual

The suspect was v v violent prior to the video

The police were armed and had to react in such a way the suspect could not get hold of their firearms

Before people post do some background research first

It is unreasonable force.

The police have history to lie to cover their tracks too.
An independent investigation please.

This brutality is unacceptable. Especially as the man was down.

Hope the officer is sacked.