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Humans remains found in suitcase in Bristol

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separatedornot · 11/07/2024 16:53

Manhunt ongoing.

A lot of bad news in the last couple of days.

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oakleaffy · 12/07/2024 15:31

RoseAndRose · 12/07/2024 15:29

Identifying the body will depend on the state of the body (and whether the dark liquid was indeed blood or if it was the products of decomposition) and whether the body (or indeed bodies) are complete.

If they can tell sex, height, hair and skin colour and distinguishing features (such as tattoos), and potentially they match a missing person, then DNA match to family shouldn't take that long (assuming family can be located). If the victim/s have been previously arrested, then there would be a quick match on the DNA database.

But if not reported missing or on the DNA database, then it must get much more complicated.

Allegedly victims are ''Two adult men''....{See Green's post above}

RoseAndRose · 12/07/2024 15:38

My last post crossed with the update provided by @GreensFuckOff

So body parts from 2x adult males and a crime scene in London.

I doubt the bodies are complete, as the remains found fitted in to two suitcases which, though heavy, could be carried. Just my opinion, but this is looking more like something gang-related or linked to organised crime.

"Not yet formally identified" suggests to me that the police investigations have discovered their identities (maybe DNA database?) but they won't release more until families have been informed.

As noted yesterday, the man with the suitcases didn't appear to be wearing gloves, so fingerprints might have given an early lead.

I wonder if the cabbie was Bristolian or long distance from London?

NooNakedJacuzziness · 12/07/2024 15:41

It's like they googled "tall place not too far from London" - seems very amateurish

Mumsgotaheadache01 · 12/07/2024 15:43

I live locally and have hear that he said to the taxi driver that it was his boss and that his boss did something awful . I don't know how much truth in that but I'm hoping they find out soon who the victim Is so that his friends and family can have some peace . Its all so sad.

Devonbabs · 12/07/2024 15:49

oakleaffy · 12/07/2024 15:28

Because someone said Bristol was a bad place to live, I think. That it had gone downhill in recent years.

Then Slave trade was mentioned to further say what a ''bad place'' Bristol is. {Although no worse than Bath or London as regards having a slaving background}

I still don’t see how the slave trade 200 odd years ago in any of its linked multiple locations in nearly every country had anything to do with the murder of two men in 2024 or, indeed the type of place Bristol is now.

But I’m not going to add to the derailment.

So people appear to be correct that the suspect wasn’t local (appears to be from London) and the Bridge was going to be used to get rid of the bodies. I hope they find the suspect and feel so sorry for the victims families.

oakleaffy · 12/07/2024 15:59

Devonbabs · 12/07/2024 15:49

I still don’t see how the slave trade 200 odd years ago in any of its linked multiple locations in nearly every country had anything to do with the murder of two men in 2024 or, indeed the type of place Bristol is now.

But I’m not going to add to the derailment.

So people appear to be correct that the suspect wasn’t local (appears to be from London) and the Bridge was going to be used to get rid of the bodies. I hope they find the suspect and feel so sorry for the victims families.

Interesting that people with ''local knowledge'' knew that the Suspension Bridge would be a poor area in which to dispose of a body - because of the high anti suicide cables and also CCTV.

I'm surprised they didn't use The Thames, being from West London- Except Harbour Masters regularly ply the Thames, and bodies do wash up on the foreshores there.

BusterGonad · 12/07/2024 16:00

Gangster clothing! 😂

oakleaffy · 12/07/2024 16:01

BusterGonad · 12/07/2024 16:00

Gangster clothing! 😂

Well, if the killings are gang related - the people who have said ''Gangster clothing'' won't be far off the mark.

LittleGreenDuck · 12/07/2024 16:07

RoseAndRose · 12/07/2024 15:38

My last post crossed with the update provided by @GreensFuckOff

So body parts from 2x adult males and a crime scene in London.

I doubt the bodies are complete, as the remains found fitted in to two suitcases which, though heavy, could be carried. Just my opinion, but this is looking more like something gang-related or linked to organised crime.

"Not yet formally identified" suggests to me that the police investigations have discovered their identities (maybe DNA database?) but they won't release more until families have been informed.

As noted yesterday, the man with the suitcases didn't appear to be wearing gloves, so fingerprints might have given an early lead.

I wonder if the cabbie was Bristolian or long distance from London?

Says in the statement that he travelled to Bristol earlier on Wednesday before^^ taking a taxi to the bridge, so I assume the taxi driver is local.

Wonder how he got the suitcases to Bristol from London. Surely not on the train?

NooNakedJacuzziness · 12/07/2024 16:14

My friend walks home over the bridge. If it's late at night he's noticed one of the guys in the toll booth will radio the bloke at the other end and they keep an eye on him until he's over (in case suicide risk he thinks) so it's not like some deserted old bridge. They didn't do much research it would seem!

BusterGonad · 12/07/2024 16:14

oakleaffy · 12/07/2024 16:01

Well, if the killings are gang related - the people who have said ''Gangster clothing'' won't be far off the mark.

The UK must be full of gangs then.

PerkyMintDeer · 12/07/2024 16:20

I used to live quite close to Shepherds Bush (a few streets away in Chiswick)...he is dressed very unremarkably for that area of London. And gang members in London don't tend to have a uniform.

It is terrible that two lives have been lost and their bodies destroyed in such an inhumane manner. Earlier I said I hope these people were able to be traced, not the victims of trafficking or here undocumented and not known about. The more I read of the man with the suitcases, the more I am afraid this may turn out to be the case. So many cases over the years of bodies being found in the Thames or other rivers or suitcases and never identified, usually non white people, sometimes children, often dismembered or mutilated. What an awful thought as well that a train or busy journey may have been involved. Just horrible. Those poor people.

WomenStuff · 12/07/2024 16:35

LittleGreenDuck · 12/07/2024 16:07

Says in the statement that he travelled to Bristol earlier on Wednesday before^^ taking a taxi to the bridge, so I assume the taxi driver is local.

Wonder how he got the suitcases to Bristol from London. Surely not on the train?

Seriously doubt it was the train as that line is always utterly crammed and finding space for suitcases is a nightmare.

RoseAndRose · 12/07/2024 16:40

LittleGreenDuck · 12/07/2024 16:07

Says in the statement that he travelled to Bristol earlier on Wednesday before^^ taking a taxi to the bridge, so I assume the taxi driver is local.

Wonder how he got the suitcases to Bristol from London. Surely not on the train?

It doesn't quite say that.

From the version on the SKY website, it says that the man they're hunting "travelled to Bristol from London on Wednesday before the remains were found" and that "it is believed the wanted man took a taxi to where the suitcases were unloaded"
It doesn't say how he got from London to Bristol, nor where he got the taxi from. "Before" covers quite a lot of possibilities. (And I'm wondering if the driver is helping or "helping")

I'm assuming the wanted man didn't take the train, so who drove him where?

Following on from another post, even though the tidal Thames tends to give up its bodies/body parts, it can take weeks before it does so. And if you weighted down the suitcases, then even longer. Much shorter to drive along the river beyond the Thames Barrier, and probably a better chance of finding somewhere with no CCTV to throw them in - just about anywhere would have less coverage than the Clifton Suspension Bridge. It's as if they wanted to be spotted but why on earth could that be?

Hvjudefjhfdr · 12/07/2024 16:46

WomenStuff · 12/07/2024 16:35

Seriously doubt it was the train as that line is always utterly crammed and finding space for suitcases is a nightmare.

Could he have travelled from London and then the people were killed in Bristol and so that’s why they were dumped where they are. He could have been a hitman or anything. Perhaps the crime scene in Shepherds Bush just shows evidence that he was preparing to do something, rather than actually doing it there.

Its really terrifying.

EasterIssland · 12/07/2024 16:51

Hvjudefjhfdr · 12/07/2024 16:46

Could he have travelled from London and then the people were killed in Bristol and so that’s why they were dumped where they are. He could have been a hitman or anything. Perhaps the crime scene in Shepherds Bush just shows evidence that he was preparing to do something, rather than actually doing it there.

Its really terrifying.

Bristol post is saying
“the suitcases are believed to have been brought into Bristol from london”

so I think the bodies are coming from London

Hvjudefjhfdr · 12/07/2024 16:56

EasterIssland · 12/07/2024 16:51

Bristol post is saying
“the suitcases are believed to have been brought into Bristol from london”

so I think the bodies are coming from London

That would indicate they did come on the train then really, because they’ve been seen doing that journey. It’s horrible for everybody they have dragged into it - the taxi driver, the witnesses and possibly train passengers. There is definitely a sense that they wanted to be caught, they haven’t tried to hide it at all. Who would go to Clifton suspension bridge with suitcases innocently?? They aroused suspicion from the start and they did it in full view of the witnesses knowing they were there. The whole thing seems mindless and crazy.

Aspierational · 12/07/2024 17:05

What a fucking idiot! I imagine the perpetrator(s) and victims are all involved in a load of dark and dodgy dealings; apologies if it turns out that I'm wrong. This guy seems to have made no effort to conceal himself whatsoever!

RoseAndRose · 12/07/2024 17:08

That would indicate they did come on the train then really, because they’ve been seen doing that journey

Have they? Is that in local news reporting, because it doesn't seem to be in the police statements

As an aside, the average weight of a British man is around 80kg.

It's hard, even for a man, to carry suitcases much above 40kg. I mean, I know weightlifting records are much higher, but that's with specific kit and just to hold on one spot, not to lug around.
So I think it would have been a struggle to get cases on and off public transport of any kind, even if they did not contain the complete bodies.

Presumably the police are looking at who the deceased were, and where they were in the days leading up to and the first part of Wednesday. If reported missing, where did they go missing from?

PerkyMintDeer · 12/07/2024 17:10

Aspierational · 12/07/2024 17:05

What a fucking idiot! I imagine the perpetrator(s) and victims are all involved in a load of dark and dodgy dealings; apologies if it turns out that I'm wrong. This guy seems to have made no effort to conceal himself whatsoever!

He seems to be a native Spanish speaker, living in an area in London that houses a lot of migrants (if he lives near the crime scene in Shepherd's Bush)...I think it's likely he didn't know the area at all and thought that he wouldn't get caught or connected to London based murders in a place like Bristol and failed to do any research about cctv/suicide prevention cables etc.

MuscariFan · 12/07/2024 17:11

As an aside, the average weight of a British man is around 80kg.

It's hard, even for a man, to carry suitcases much above 40kg.

One has to wonder whether others have been sent off in different directions with additional suitcases.

MillyNair · 12/07/2024 17:12

BusterGonad · 12/07/2024 16:14

The UK must be full of gangs then.

@oakleaffy - I don't get your logic. So, if he was wearing a suit and it turned out he was the murderer would the suit be murderer's attire?

Do gangs have uniforms? I suppose it depends on the gang. Someone once told me about a gang in London whose uniform kept changing and included fox hunting attire and kilts. I have never seen such a thing so who knows.

Aspierational · 12/07/2024 17:13

PerkyMintDeer · 12/07/2024 17:10

He seems to be a native Spanish speaker, living in an area in London that houses a lot of migrants (if he lives near the crime scene in Shepherd's Bush)...I think it's likely he didn't know the area at all and thought that he wouldn't get caught or connected to London based murders in a place like Bristol and failed to do any research about cctv/suicide prevention cables etc.

He didn't even cover his face or wear gloves, and he got a friggin' taxi, which seems ridiculous if the taxi driver wasn't an accomplice!

LuluBlakey1 · 12/07/2024 17:16

I thought the remains were going to be a woman-his partner/ex or someone he knew. I was very wrong.

What on earth is wrong with men who kill? There seem to be many more murders and violent cries than there once were. The Hunt family this week. The nutter who was plotting to kidnap and keep Holly Willoughby (and had served time for crimes against other women). The cries we have seen recently against children. Gangs/individuals assaulting people with machetes It's all horrible.

LiterallyOnFire · 12/07/2024 17:17

LuluBlakey1 · 12/07/2024 17:16

I thought the remains were going to be a woman-his partner/ex or someone he knew. I was very wrong.

What on earth is wrong with men who kill? There seem to be many more murders and violent cries than there once were. The Hunt family this week. The nutter who was plotting to kidnap and keep Holly Willoughby (and had served time for crimes against other women). The cries we have seen recently against children. Gangs/individuals assaulting people with machetes It's all horrible.

From the scraps I've heard this morning, I believe the count is now THREE men who took a taxi from London to Bristol with multiple suitcases containing TWO (male) victims. So we've moved into hang or criminal underworld territory now.

Which is more unusual than men killing women with impunity.

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