Humans remains found in suitcase in Bristol

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Manhunt ongoing.

A lot of bad news in the last couple of days.

Horrific, I always really feel for the emergency services who do the gruesome work of responding to incidents like this.

If anything good can possibly come out of this it's more publicity for missing Jack. Must be awful for his family having it linked though.

@haveatye yes and also there were shitheads in the originating country's ,often locals , making money from rounding up and putting people in that position too. It's actually a 2 sided thing that is always presented as one sided- it's bit like in the war with spivs making money from looting bombed houses etc -

The point of the post was to show that crime stats depend on where you take as your baseline.

And my start point has equal validity to all other start points being cited.

And they are all a bit off-topic (so I'll stop feeding it, now that I've clarified what I meant in the first place)

BBC updated 1 minute ago, saying that the hunt for the man (pics contained in the article) continues

Bristol: Bridge manhunt after body parts found in suitcases - BBC News

Such shitheads definitely existed but saying it's two-sided suggests said shitheads profited to an equal degree as British investors, which is clearly not the case.

WWII is an interesting one too - home front often presented as cosy and familial, even the spivs we're sweet. Maybe some of it was but there were also plenty of rapists taking advantage of the blackout/bomb shelters, officers abusing female recruits away from home for the first time etc.

@haveatye yes I should have qualified it- Brits ( and other nations) benefited more , but were enabled by locals too-

Totally right about WW11

A lot of the world owes something to the slave trade. Egypt was literally built on the backs of slaves, most of the areas round the med. Many areas in Africa also made quite a lot of money selling slaves across the centuries.

Portugal made a lot of money from Slavery. As did France and the Netherlands.

Britain, of course played a pivotal role in ending the transatlantic slave trade. All of us have part to play in ending modern day slavery.

But I can’t see what any of that has to do with a black guy dumping some poor persons dismembered body in a suitcase. Unless, of course you’re trying to justify it by something that happened over 200 years ago?

Some people have said he was dressed like a gangster/gang member, but the clothing description is this:
'Officers said he was wearing a black Adidas baseball cap, black jeans, a black jacket, black trainers with thick white soles and had a black backpack.'
This seems like very standard modern men's clothes to me, I don't understand what makes them gangster clothes? Other than the baseball cap, my DP wears that type of outfit regularly, he is a million miles away from being a gangster.

I think it’s fairly unusual for men to be dressed in head to toe black including black cap, it’s certainly not something I see in public very often and my husband has never dressed like that. Maybe it’s location dependent?

I should add I’m not saying that that makes it ‘gangster wear’, I have no actual idea what gangsters wear! But it’s not the sort of outfit I usually see men wearing.

There is nothing "gangster" about what he's wearing ffs. He's hardly going to wear bright pink while dumping a body in the middle of the night.

It's pretty standard menswear for any male working class, black or white, from 12 - 50 where I live.To my eyes he's dressed totally normally. I'm in a medium sized, diverse, town just outside Manchester. He honestly looks totally unremarkable to me. Not at all "gangster" or unusual and I was surprised by some of the comments I've read in this thread. I've seen men dressed like this all over...Glasgow, London, Birmingham even sleepy towns like Ilkley and Skipton recently!

The linked radio report from the Witness is very vivid.
He said there WAS a smell- and a fair amount of blood leaking -so the taxi driver definitely would have been aware.

The taxi driver is ''Still helping police with their enquiries''

Forensics say it will be a 'long and complex'' investigation, which makes one wonder if it is one or more than one person who has been murdered.

Ghastly.

This is an incomprehensible tragedy for someone's family and loved ones.

In my opinion, derailing with talk of the slave trade is weird, inappropriate and insulting.

Agree only because everyone looks like a gangster or like a road man. Even private school teens. It is the fashion of the now.

What about the taxi driver? Surely he would have noticed blood leaking from the suitcase(s) and his cab would have been damaged as a result. I can't understand that unless he was a part of it.

CCTV s 24/7, it is manned but not 24/7, I have 'manned' this area as it is/was a suicide point but the bridge is only a small part of it.
I can't get y head round people saying he can't be local as he'd know! Bristol isn't that tiny, there are also many, many accents, languages spoken in Bristol especially the Clifton area as it has a very wonderful mix of nationalities, not just us locals.
Speculation of who the victim is horrid, someones loved one is dead.

He’s helping police at the moment
if the police was alerted as soon as they were spotted in the bridge the taxi driver might have not been aware about the blood? It was dark at night so I guess not as easy to spot

Yes. I’ve also asked why it was relevant!

The radio report someone linked on this thread interviewed an important eye witness.

The suitcases were heavy, one missing its wheels and leaking via the zip.

There was a ''smell''

No way could the taxi driver not have noticed.

Taxi driver is ''still helping police with their enquiries'' was what I read online.

Update from Avon and Somerset Police:

In the past few minutes, Acting Bristol Commander Vicks Hayward-Melen has issued the following statement:

The discovery of human remains within two suitcases on the Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol on Wednesday night has understandably caused shock and deep concern across our communities.

Over the past 36 hours, significant progress has been made in the investigation, which up until now has been led by officers with our Major Crime Investigation Team.

As a direct result of these enquiries and due to the information gathered so far, primacy for this investigation has now been handed over to the Metropolitan Police.

It is believed the man wanted in connection with this incident had travelled to the Clifton area of Bristol from London earlier on Wednesday before taking a taxi to Clifton Suspension Bridge where the suitcases were unloaded. There is also a crime scene in place at a location in Shepherd’s Bush.

Our detectives are working closely with the inquiry team from the Met Police and we’ll continue to assist them in any way we can.

We’re able to confirm forensic post-mortem examinations are still being carried out on the remains found within the two suitcases, but they are believed to be of two adult men. It’s important to stress they have not yet been formally identified and efforts to locate and speak to their next of kin are being prioritised.

The search for the man we released photos of yesterday is now being led by the Met Police. There is no information to suggest he remains in the Avon and Somerset area.

He’s described as Black, with a beard. He was wearing a black Adidas baseball cap with a white motif, black jeans, a black jacket with a motif on the chest and black trainers with thick white soles. He is also to believed to have been wearing a gold earring and was carrying a black backpack.

We would urge anyone who does see him to not approach him and instead call 999.
We’re very grateful to the public for the way they’ve responded to our appeals for information. Policing relies on the support of the public and we’d like to thank everyone who has contacted us to supply information or help in some way. We’ve had more than 160 messages through our Major Incident Room phone number and our online portal.

We’d also like to thank residents for their patience for any disruption caused by the Closure of Clifton Suspension Bridge. The bridge re-opened earlier today following the completion of our enquiries and the removal of the cordon.

Despite the investigation being transferred to the Met Police, our Neighbourhood Policing teams will continue to carry out high-visibility engagement patrols in the Clifton and Leigh Woods area over the coming days and we have a mobile police station located next to the Clifton Suspension Bridge (Clifton side).

For any information, excluding sightings, details can be submitted on our Major Incident Public Portal or by calling the Major Incident Room Number on 0800 056 0944, if calling from the UK, or 0207 158 0010 from abroad: orlo.uk/MISjV

Because someone said Bristol was a bad place to live, I think. That it had gone downhill in recent years.

Then Slave trade was mentioned to further say what a ''bad place'' Bristol is. {Although no worse than Bath or London as regards having a slaving background}

Or Liverpool

Identifying the body will depend on the state of the body (and whether the dark liquid was indeed blood or if it was the products of decomposition) and whether the body (or indeed bodies) are complete.

If they can tell sex, height, hair and skin colour and distinguishing features (such as tattoos), and potentially they match a missing person, then DNA match to family shouldn't take that long (assuming family can be located). If the victim/s have been previously arrested, then there would be a quick match on the DNA database.

But if not reported missing or on the DNA database, then it must get much more complicated.

@GreensFuckOff ..Thanks for the update.