Three woman murdered in Hertfordshire.

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Absolutely shocking. A 26 year old man named as Kyle Clifford, believed to be armed with a crossbow, is being sought by police.
The dead women are aged 61, 28 and 25.

It's absolutely appropriate to show animosity towards the sex that commits 98% of violent crime.
No one is being unkind (God forbid women are unkind!) towards individual men, but if you can't name and identify something, you can't deal with it. And MALE violence against women and girls is frequent and horrific. It's terrorism.
And i would hope decent men will understand the fury women feel when events like this happen.

He had worked as a security guard. I should think that his violence was never far from the surface. I can’t say just how angry I am. This happens over and over and over and people still say “Not all men””

But it is all men. They all benefit from women and girls living under siege.

Please don't tell people what views they can and cannot express. The OP simply stated the facts of what happened. We are all free to post our views on the thread.

Wtf
that is awful

I think most would agree your NAMALT views are not welcome on this thread about three murdered women. HTH.

That's funny, because I can't believe you'd exploit a triple murder to push your shitty NAMALT agenda and prioritise men's PR.

Well actually I can, because you lot always do. But it's no less transparent and foul for that.

pack it in. You know exactly what i mean. We are mourning the loss of 3 women at the hands of a man.

NAMALT is not appropriate here and it isn't "telling people what to do" to ask them to take it elsewhere at this time.

Have a little respect

My respect is reserved for the average of 2 women a week murdered by men, mostly by men they knew.

THIS murderer is awful, not all men.

So sorry for the family.

This post is an example of the battle we have to get vawg taken seriously.

My sympathy lies with the victims, the 3 women who have lost their lives in what must have been an absolutely terrifying attack.

You know what guys get a fucking grip!! Why does it always have to descend into a slinging match!!

There is room for both recognising that make violence is a huge problem. Not only towards women but towards other men too. It's a huge problem and one we are allowed to be angry about.

But there is also room to recognise that a man has had his life destroyed by this too. It sounds like he found them as well. It is unspeakably awful for Carol, Louise and Hannah. It is also for their husband/ father John and their wider family and friends.

Poor poor man, his whole family wiped out.

No doubt the daughter had the 'audacity' to dump this scumbag and he reacted that only 'men' know how.

Agree with this, feel sorry for everyone involved dreadful to think of what happened to them in their final moments.
Also I hope John has a solid support system he has just lost everything..

Please don't turn this into a man-centric thread
Remember, THREE WOMEN have lost their lives.
Have a little respect.

This statistic deserves to be repeated again and again, because most people are unaware.

And no, "Not All Men".

But "All Of Them Are Men".

Thanks for your input.

Don't they just...Michael Ryan all over again.

Let's hope he is caught before he has a chance to murder other innocent people.

Oh no! None of that crap - you remember that three WOMEN have had their lives brutally taken from them.

Terrible.

When I saw the headline, I thought 'Christ, that poor man, discovering that scene'. No, I did not think of what those women went through. My brain doesn't want to go there.

If it was my neighbour suspected of the murders, I would probably, in shock, tell reporters what a nice man I thought he was.

And I also thought, thank god for the kind and decent men in my family. NAMALT, if you like. It's quite obvious that it isn't all men. What stops the majority from behaving in this way? That's a question to consider, as much as we ask why it's usually men (because it is almost always men).

Something utterly dreadful has happened. I don't think the instant angry bickering about people saying the 'wrong thing' is helpful. People are and will be extremely shocked by this.

There is another daughter who was not at the house.

John Hunt was commentating at Lingfield yesterday, racing finished at 5.30 so seeing as the alarm was raised at about 7pm it fits that he is likely to have arrived home and found them.

My God, the utter evilness and madness of some men.

Those poor women, all of them with so much to look forward to its just horrific.
I do feel for their friends and family and yes the father and husband who must be in so much pain right now.

Even my "nice" sensitive boyfriend when I was a teenager and who dumped me became verbally abusive and physically when after years of us not even seeing each other and then randomly bumping into each other in a bookshop when I refused his request to get my number and start seeing each other again even though I was engaged to my now husband at that point. Somewhere in the back of his mind he thought I still belonged to him and that it was his right to swear and shout at me and grab me when I told him no, thank god it was in a public place! Then what about the women who had to ask me to walk with her because she had just broken up with her boyfriend and she was terrified he was going to hurt her.

Sadly women aren't safe from men, it isn't all men but how can we ever know?

@CaveMum I didn't know there was another daughter.. I hope she & her dad find solace in each other at this awful time

Of course it's Not All Men.

But we can never know for sure which men it is..