Abandoned baby Elsa is third newborn to be deserted by same parents

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5115e7k2eno

💯 this is what I think unfortunately

DNA is taken when a person is arrested I believe so looks like no criminal record for either parent. Just so very sad that this is happening in 2024.
On Long Lost Family Foundlings ( not sure that’s the correct programme title) they found 2 adults who’d both been abandoned as babies, I think they were full siblings.
Maybe if wider family have put DNA on Ancestry that might one day show a match.
I can’t imagine what the poor mum has gone through.

You just made that up with no evidence whatsoever. There are about 60 babies abandoned in the UK every year, and there is no information about who physically abandons them.

The 7 year span with big gap makes it very unusual. I presume the police will be trying to match up with any immigration or prison records eg father may have been stuck abroad during Covid era.
Hopefully someone will give a tip off that assists the authorities.

I remember a report in Jezebel years ago about men ripping out their partners IUDS It was horrific

Did police not realise the birth in 2017 and 2019 were related until now?They could have started looking into this back then surely?

They probably did know and have been looking. The media just hasn't been permitted to report on it until now.

the BBC report says the three children are almost certainly full siblings.

Perhaps people think that she is a surrogate for people who can’t have children?

Thank God the babies survived. That in itself is a
miracle.

There is a clue to this in the first post.

The bbc article has the ONS stats for baby abandonment in UK at virtually nil and academics estimating 16 a year maximum.

As indeed could the mother. I believe arrest records include taking DNA.

This is the main reason the story has been shared in the media… did you read the thread title?

I remember that programme. The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for.

Why has this info been released? Are the police hoping for leads?

@Changingplace obviously misinterpreted it otherwise I wouldn’t have asked would I?

It’s been released followed a successful application to court by BBC and PA media that the information is in the public interest. The local authority who has care of the child opposed the application.

@IfYoureHappyAndYouKnowItHaveAGin’s post is clearly not serious. They are calling out someone else’s offensive post, which has been deleted so the context is lost.

I can’t imagine any woman would want to go through 3 pregnancies & 3 labours just to abandon the babies. This makes me think either she has learning difficulties, or she is being abused. I can’t speculate on much else.

Wonder what the police found on the CCTV as it is in most places nowadays they say the baby was around an hour old so surely it wouldn't be much to look through...

Yes, some very young woman, perhaps

I suspect the police would have thought of that back when the baby was abandoned.

@mathanxiety
I think for the sake of this particular situation, 'abandoned' means a live baby left (usually) in a public place with no means of identification.

Disposed of babies are, presumably, dead and may, or may not, be found eventually. I remember a case of a skeleton found in a chimney back. Grim. I also learned from a programme about foundlings that concealed births often are followed by immediate suffocation. Grim again. But that's not the same as abandonment which is usually done by a single person ie the mother. Not always though.

This particular case doesn't fit the lone teenager model; more an abusive, coercive, possibly incestuous situation which therefore makes it vital that both parents are found.

@zigzagzigzagz thanks for clarifying, I have seen some naivety on mumsnet so it’s hard to know.

I was demonstrating to the poster I quoted how stupid they were being.

I stated upthread I was in a coercive relationship. I had several children in that relationship. I don't need to read up on anything.

my first thought was mental illness
dh thought illegal immigrants, but you can still conceal children, in that case