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4 young children stabbed in Annecy

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Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 08/06/2023 17:54

I looked for a thread on this but couldn't see one.

I'm absolutely shocked and sickened at this attack on these helpless babies.

I can't imagine what the mother/minder of the baby who was stabbed multiple times in their pushchair is feeling and I so hope the two babies who are critical pull through.

Just awful :( :(

Reading these kinds of stories really affect me. I have a 3.5 yr old and a 18month old and I just want to scoop them up and protect them forever.

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Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 20:34

SunnyEgg · 08/06/2023 20:27

I don’t think people knew, but yes it could have been posters on this thread you were referring to - that’s how it read anyway

It could only have been people on this thread I was referring to if they were being racist.

nhsometime · 08/06/2023 20:35

Of course the Daily Mail are stressing it that he was a Syrian asylum seeker.

As if there aren't any white people who commit horrific violence against children...oh wait.

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 20:35

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:30

We’ll see.

He’s been staying in a Church as well
What more evidence would you like to prove he’s a Christian?

BodegaSushi · 08/06/2023 20:37

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 18:43

Seems pretty clear this man is mentally ill
Its not an excuse and he deserves to be punished but I see the racists are circling with glee

My thoughts exactly. Raoul Moat was just a 'killer gunman'. But all the news reports are leading with 'Syrian Asylum Seeker'.

4 young children stabbed in Annecy
Cas112 · 08/06/2023 20:38

It's so so so so sad. Them poor babies

SunnyEgg · 08/06/2023 20:39

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 20:34

It could only have been people on this thread I was referring to if they were being racist.

Well that’s why people asked you to point it out

They couldn’t see it but read your posts as saying you had

nhsometime · 08/06/2023 20:39

I also think it comes down to mental heath.

Wasn't there a woman who randomly attacked a little girl in a park in England and cut her throat?

I think she was also mentally ill

SheSeIIsSeaShells · 08/06/2023 20:43

Psalms 137:9 - Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

1 Samuel 15:3 - Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Exodus 12:29 - And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Isaiah 13:16 - Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Hosea 13:16 - Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

2 Kings 15:16 - Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.

Numbers 31:17 - Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Psalms 135:8 - Who smote the firstborn of Egypt, both of man and beast.

Acts 7:19 - The same dealt subtly with our kindred, and evil entreated our fathers, so that they cast out their young children, to the end they might not live.

Psalms 136:10 - To him that smote Egypt in their firstborn: for his mercy endureth for ever:

Exodus 1:16 - And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

Amos 1:13 - Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might enlarge their border:

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 20:43

nhsometime · 08/06/2023 20:39

I also think it comes down to mental heath.

Wasn't there a woman who randomly attacked a little girl in a park in England and cut her throat?

I think she was also mentally ill

I think she was also not born in The UK, I dint remember many comments on that.
Its as if there is an important difference between her and the man who has committed these awful crimes

LangsNot · 08/06/2023 20:47

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:26

He should be deported, but I guess he’d rather do his time in a European prison.

Or if he did the attack to prevent being deported back to a place that might actually be awful - so he’d rather live as a prisoner in Europe than a free man in Syria - then he might be one of the few genuine refugees 🤷‍♀️

so he’d rather live as a prisoner in Europe than a free man in Syria

I'd actually typed this statement in my response - except I wrote 'so he'd rather be in a French prison than a free man in Syria' - but deleted it as I didn't know the fact about his life in Syria.

Also, I've heard of people commiting crimes to go to (insert country's) prison rather than back to their own country but it's only ever been 'petty' to 'moderate' crimes that involves no physical harm. Never heard of going on a murder rampage. He's lucky the death penalty isn't awaiting him for this.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:48

nhsometime · 08/06/2023 20:39

I also think it comes down to mental heath.

Wasn't there a woman who randomly attacked a little girl in a park in England and cut her throat?

I think she was also mentally ill

Yep. There’s a correlation between refugee status and bad mental health.

If bad mental health leads to attacks such as this, we need to consider our refugee policy.

Brumbies · 08/06/2023 20:50

I knew when I posted my comment would be deleted but I stand by everything I write. Why do we continue to allow open border when my daughter in law cannot get a visa to come to the uk - another story

LangsNot · 08/06/2023 20:52

We have to remember that like physical health, mental health has different illnesses and degrees of illnesses. We need to know the 'mental health' illness we're referring to and they need assessments/mental checkups (like physical) to ascertain/diagnose.

BumblebeeWest · 08/06/2023 20:53

SheSeIIsSeaShells · 08/06/2023 20:43

Psalms 137:9 - Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

1 Samuel 15:3 - Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Exodus 12:29 - And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.

Isaiah 13:16 - Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

Hosea 13:16 - Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

2 Kings 15:16 - Then Menahem smote Tiphsah, and all that were therein, and the coasts thereof from Tirzah: because they opened not to him, therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.

Numbers 31:17 - Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

Psalms 135:8 - Who smote the firstborn of Egypt, both of man and beast.

Acts 7:19 - The same dealt subtly with our kindred, and evil entreated our fathers, so that they cast out their young children, to the end they might not live.

Psalms 136:10 - To him that smote Egypt in their firstborn: for his mercy endureth for ever:

Exodus 1:16 - And he said, When ye do the office of a midwife to the Hebrew women, and see them upon the stools; if it be a son, then ye shall kill him: but if it be a daughter, then she shall live.

Amos 1:13 - Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of the children of Ammon, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have ripped up the women with child of Gilead, that they might enlarge their border:

Of your quotes, I think Acts is the only book with any relevance to Jesus, what with the rest being Old Testament; and your Acts verse quite clearly states it’s evil to cause children to die. Nothing about stabbing up a bunch of toddlers and a couple of innocent old men is Christian, there’s no point trying to justify it, we see you.

Soubriquet · 08/06/2023 20:53

@SheSeIIsSeaShells

I always think of the plagues of Egypt whenever someone says god would never hurt children.

Im not a Christian so I didn’t realise there was a lot more passages!

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:54

Brumbies · 08/06/2023 20:50

I knew when I posted my comment would be deleted but I stand by everything I write. Why do we continue to allow open border when my daughter in law cannot get a visa to come to the uk - another story

It’s almost as though the people who govern us, hate us.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:55

BumblebeeWest · 08/06/2023 20:53

Of your quotes, I think Acts is the only book with any relevance to Jesus, what with the rest being Old Testament; and your Acts verse quite clearly states it’s evil to cause children to die. Nothing about stabbing up a bunch of toddlers and a couple of innocent old men is Christian, there’s no point trying to justify it, we see you.

Yes, Christians follow the New Testament.

She must be thinking of that other religion that still hangs on to the teachings of the Old Testament.

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 08/06/2023 20:56

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SheSeIIsSeaShells · 08/06/2023 20:57

BumblebeeWest · 08/06/2023 20:53

Of your quotes, I think Acts is the only book with any relevance to Jesus, what with the rest being Old Testament; and your Acts verse quite clearly states it’s evil to cause children to die. Nothing about stabbing up a bunch of toddlers and a couple of innocent old men is Christian, there’s no point trying to justify it, we see you.

Jesus and god, one and the same, are they not? Trinity and all that.

Not justifying a thing. Just saying xtianity doesn't exactly have a good rule book.

Riverlee · 08/06/2023 20:58

sathletdown · 08/06/2023 19:46

i was there yesterday. I had an appointment at the prefecture which is right next to this park- i nearly decided to move it to today because a road closure was making me late…. For some reason i didn’t. After the prefecture we were in that park for 2 hours, we ate lunch where he was running from gendarmes, my children were playing on the slide from the video… it’s a super safe place, i left my 15 month old in their pram asleep at the side of the park whilst the other two played- all i can think now is if i had decided to go today it would be a totally different story.

So glad you’re safe, and wishing all those affected by this incident a speedy recovery.

Riverlee · 08/06/2023 21:00

is the news leading with Syrian asylum seeker to distinguish the fact that he’s not a French National?

Jukeboxer · 08/06/2023 21:01

People are complaining on Twitter that the videos being posted are then being deleted as if it's some sort of MSM conspiracy and not because babies are being attacked.

FernGully43 · 08/06/2023 21:04

I just checked again and this was the update from the BBC

All the children are in hospital, but local officials have told the BBC that they are in a stable condition.

Such a relief to read the babies are all stable.

8state · 08/06/2023 21:04

I don't know if any videos should be shown, even on the news. It's very insensitive to the victims, and it's not entertainment.

Jukeboxer · 08/06/2023 21:05

@8state I totally agree.