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Harry and Meghan and Doria car accident?

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OneFrenchEgg · 17/05/2023 15:19

Just heard this on the radio, does anyone have an actual source? Can't see it anywhere yet, I'm sure that is what I heard, assume not 'serious' as in risk to them?

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crosstalk · 17/05/2023 19:31

Shall we all just wait for clarification.

NYPD says paparazzi made it "difficult" but it wasn't "catastrophic". I suspect there are huge numbers of videos to come in. And if the paparazzi were driving over pavements and going the wrong way up one way streets I trust that will come out too - including number plates and charges. From the current description it sounds as if other drivers and normal people were most at risk.

However leaving by a back door as Princess Diana did in Paris doesn't mean safety if the paps are involved. Proper security is key - and seems to have been missing here. Rather than expect this country or any other to pay for a British detail running into millions, perhaps a few grand for royal detail to train the celebrity detail on what to do and what not to do would be useful.

NeedToThinkOfOne · 17/05/2023 19:34

MmaRra · 17/05/2023 19:09

This thread isn't Mumsnet's finest hour and I can see why the other thread has been taken down. Such a lack of empathy being shown by some, especially given how Harry's mother died and during his childhood.

Um, guilty of lack of empathy then because I haven’t seen a PR move as bold as this since their last one in a while. It’s absolutely not necessary for it to be leading the news, nothing happened and do read the statement from the taxi driver, says it all really.

4plusthehound · 17/05/2023 19:34

Mackerson · 17/05/2023 19:23

No one is saying that they were wrong to go to a police station if that's what they did. Its just that they should have done it straightaway rather than keep driving round for over 2 hours contributing, as they describe, to multiple near collisions.

@Mackerson I don't understand how you can read about this and post what you post?

It took them two hours to get home.

That included driving, stopping at police stations, changing cars, driving again etc.

rather than keep driving round for over 2 hours contributing,as they describe, to multiple near collisions.

Why keep repeating this when we know now that is not true? Very stange way to behave!

Winniewoooooooo · 17/05/2023 19:35

Just think about it before you answer and make yourself look ignorant...... oops

Squishmellow12 · 17/05/2023 19:35

Well I hope no one was hurt buuuut hear me out........ what if this was orchestred to show the royal family that they do in fact need better security. Wouldn't put it past them, they love the drama.......

4plusthehound · 17/05/2023 19:36

SirChenjins · 17/05/2023 19:25

I know you were really hoping for a gotcha moment there and were getting all excited with all your CAPITAL LETTERS, but I was a)responding to the person who said “If I was being followed by some random person/people I absolutely would not just pull over, especially in America.
I suggest you shouldn’t do the same either” and b)didn’t express my disapproval of H&M’s actions at any point.

What next? I’ll probably just finish my cup of tea while idly scrolling through MN.

I stand corrected!

<Cap doffing emoji>. 😁

Mackerson · 17/05/2023 19:36

behaveasbefitsthesituationwillyas · 17/05/2023 19:21

No, they said they were on motorcyles and scooters and cars. Not on foot. I'd link the video if I could find it again.

You don't need to link. I believe you. But my mistake. You're saying that the paps were on the pavements but they were driving on scooters? That makes more sense.

Although it's hard to believe that this whole mob never hit a pedestrian at that time of night driving round for 2 hours on the pavements. Surely the police would have seen that happening and stopped it quicker.

I don't doubt this happened. It just seems like there's something missing from this story. But clearly NY is very unsafe if the police and cctv cameras don't notice a large group of scooters and mopeds driving recklessly along pavements in the centre of the city.

Skodacool · 17/05/2023 19:37

UndercoverCop · 17/05/2023 15:30

I don't understand this, why would you rather undertake a high speed car chase than have your picture taken? I get you might not want to be papped but surely it's better to be alive?! Also what about the risk to others with a car chase?
Not absolving paps -scum of the earth, but he is all people skills have learned how to react in these situations?
Also I think the decision to move to the US was not a good one, this wouldn't been highly unlikely in the UK with royal protection etc

You’re right. Also, some possible exaggeration according to BBC. The story was told by their spokesperson, certainly getting them loads of sympathy.

BadNomad · 17/05/2023 19:37

what if this was orchestred to show the royal family that they do in fact need better security

You think they arranged for paps to run through red lights and drive on the pavements where they could have potentially killed people?

polkadotdalmation · 17/05/2023 19:38

BadNomad · 17/05/2023 19:37

what if this was orchestred to show the royal family that they do in fact need better security

You think they arranged for paps to run through red lights and drive on the pavements where they could have potentially killed people?

The actual police said this did not happen.

lookeelikee · 17/05/2023 19:38

Why would you go tear arsing around followed by papparazi given the history!! Just park up call the police and let them handle it.

No brains??

PicturesOfDogs · 17/05/2023 19:39

For someone to report this as ’Near fatal’ is beyond ridiculous.

Twitter and Instagram are blaming the RF, saying they’re trying to do to H&M what they did to Diana. Actually unhinged

polkadotdalmation · 17/05/2023 19:39

Mind you bicycles regularly go through red lights here, so maybe they were cycling paps?

BadNomad · 17/05/2023 19:39

polkadotdalmation · 17/05/2023 19:38

The actual police said this did not happen.

The actual police did not say it didn't happen.

fajitaaa · 17/05/2023 19:39

Squishmellow12 · 17/05/2023 19:35

Well I hope no one was hurt buuuut hear me out........ what if this was orchestred to show the royal family that they do in fact need better security. Wouldn't put it past them, they love the drama.......

No one is thick enough to think that would work

Damnspot · 17/05/2023 19:40

Do they get security if they live in America? I thought that was only for UK royals. I certainly don't want to pay for it. Can't they pay for their own?

I thought the British press was worse than any other 🙄

IcedPurple · 17/05/2023 19:40

From the current description it sounds as if other drivers and normal people were most at risk.

No, that's not how it sounds at all.

The NYPD statement specified that 'there were no reported collisions, injuries, or arrests'

Who were all these 'drivers and normal people' who were at risk? Why haven't they spoken to the press or uploaded videos concerning this newsworthy event?

MrsFinkelstein · 17/05/2023 19:40

7eleven · 17/05/2023 19:29

I wonder how they’ll manage to make it all his family’s fault? 🙄

According to their fans on Twitter Charles & William did this to try to kill them.
Makes a change from Philip I suppose.

I have no doubt this was upsetting, frightening and triggering for Harry (especially as he's been used to elite Met Royal Protection officers, and his private security seem to have ballsed the whole situation up), but releasing that hyperbolic statement hasn't helped.

Now that NYPD, the NY Mayor, the taxi driver have all released statements saying it really wasn't that big of a deal they both just look a bit silly for such an OTT statement.

Especially when most of the 2hrs just seems to be them driving up and down FDR Drive not wanting to be photographed going into whatever apartment block they were staying at.

4plusthehound · 17/05/2023 19:40

Hammerhouseofhorrors · 17/05/2023 19:27

What bollocks.
Im an ex New Yorker.
You couldn’t do a high speed chase on a bicycle let alone a car.
2 hours! What were they doing, crawling around the same intersections over and over again.
You can’t move for traffic, lights etc.
The police, NYC mayor and locals all agree it’s just not possible to do a high speed chase in NYC. This is not the M25

At no point did anyone say or suggest it was high speed. They did suggest it was corordinated, persistant and agresive - all of which is belivable. It was also at 10 pm - not notorious for bumper to bumper traffic.

But - I also lived in Manhattan. I have had many a hair raising experience in cabs when they get a run of green lights.

fajitaaa · 17/05/2023 19:40

polkadotdalmation · 17/05/2023 19:38

The actual police said this did not happen.

No they didn't. The police put out a very carefully worded statement. Every word will be there for a reason.

SilentHedges · 17/05/2023 19:41

WheresSpring · 17/05/2023 17:44

IF(!!!!!!) this had been a genuine car chase lasting 2 hours it would have been all over livestream. No injuries. No collisions. Whilst I’m sorry that they have found themselves in a position in which they did not feel safe I’m afraid I think the narrative they’re spinning is not entirely truthful.

Indeed. The Mayor of New York has had to make a statement, because as this is reported under his watch, then H&Ms allegations need to be taken very seriously. Good news... NYPD will be undertaking a full investigation and reviewing footage from multiple cctv cameras, at this very moment. Source: Ex NYPD Officer who understands how these investigations work.

So I do hope for their sake H&M are being entirely truthful, and not doing a "Jussie Smollett"

MrsFinkelstein · 17/05/2023 19:41

Just to add, they could have phoned ahead and had the doormen at the apartment waiting and ready with massive umbrellas to block the paps when they left the car to walk in the building.

ittakes2 · 17/05/2023 19:42

I must admit my first thought is…if they were being chased for pictures they have put pedestrians at risk continuing the chase? They have a security team surely they could have resolved this.

BethDuttonsTwin · 17/05/2023 19:42

user01082312345 · 17/05/2023 19:20

This sounds a lot like when Meghan spoke on her podcast about the fire that started in her son Archie's room during their trip to South Africa. It sounded dramatic, but turns out the heater just smoked slightly after being turned on, and Archie was not even present at the time. Meghan loves the attention she gets from embellishing stories which make it look as if she is the victim. Very Amber Heardish!

This. Narc trait and totally exhausting to live with.

Damnspot · 17/05/2023 19:42

I understand they didn't want the paps to know wjere they were staying which seems a bit naive

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