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lemmein · 2023-02-15T19:14:48+00:00

Fuck it, I'm opening another one. If the mods delete it fair enough. I don't believe the menopause or even alcoholism explains a woman vanishing into thin air with no evidence left behind. This whole case stinks!

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:53

Without being too nuanced on the wording used- I think the key here is "family" statement- PA has been critical of the Police at times, Im not sure her parents/sister have.

Nikkis dad said right at the beginning he didn't believe she was in the river so I imagine he's feeling very frustrated 3 weeks on and them still saying the same thing.

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Peverellshire · 16/02/2023 15:54

Goldpaw · 16/02/2023 15:52

I just can't get past that poor woman possibly having met with foul play and not here to defend herself, while she's being painted as a mentally unstable, alcoholic who ditched her DC and left her dog running loose where it could have to harm.

Quite. No wonder PA wanted to portray her as an ordinary mum and partner, trying to get away from the assumptions the police have made.

One of the interviews with a retired detective mentioned that stating the main hypothesis was Nicola being in the river would result in people not looking out for her if she'd walked away.

Interesting, if so calm and calculated and, sadly, 'all planned out', why not end her conf call? Unless she wanted it make it look like an abduction or accident? In which case, as she was very smart, I feel, wouldn't she have done a better job?

Which makes me feel very concerned.

FrazzledMCPremenopausalWoman · 16/02/2023 15:55

@confounded234

"Well yes but there's been no mention of acknowledgement of any crisis by the family until this point. to the contrary tbh"

True.

Crisis" was a poor choice of word to use in the statement - the implication being "mental health crisis". I presume the family's statement would've been run past the police PR team before it was released.

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:57

Crisis" was a poor choice of word to use in the statement - the implication being "mental health crisis". I presume the family's statement would've been run past the police PR team before it was released.

I would put money on it being the other way round - the police run it past the family before it was released.

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Goldpaw · 16/02/2023 15:57

I presume the family's statement would've been run past the police PR team before it was released.

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lemmein · 16/02/2023 15:58

Goldpaw · 16/02/2023 15:57

I presume the family's statement would've been run past the police PR team before it was released.

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Tidsleytiddy · 16/02/2023 16:01

BatsBreaktheRules · 16/02/2023 08:01

I find the outrage around this disclosure strange. There has been such a drive recently to raise awareness of the profound impact that perimenopause and menopause has on women's lives. To the extent that workplace legislation has been proposed to support women during this period.

Can peri or menopause make a woman have irrational (sometimes dark) thoughts, massive moods wings and mental anguish. Hands up, yes it can. I am speaking as someone who has recently started HRT. I have personally found that alcohol affects me much more these days (both in terms of immediate effects and affect on mood for days after). The two together are a potent mix.

So why the outrage that being menopausal is considered relevant in this case? As soon as I heard, I thought (as a menopausal woman) - 'well that changes things a little'. And not because all menopausal women are crazy alcoholics but because it can have a profound effect on someone's thoughts processes and behaviour.

Whether or not (such private) information should have been disclosed to the public, I am not sure. Maybe there are reasons to disclose it at this point. It does feel very intrusive.

Well said

FrazzledMCPremenopausalWoman · 16/02/2023 16:02

@Goldpaw @lemmein you'll have to excuse my ignorance if that's not the case - I don't know how these things usually work.

MeinKraft · 16/02/2023 16:03

'Ive not seen much comment from actual family members aside from PA?'

There was the much quoted post from I think it was her sister - setting out facts about her disappearance. And then there's her friend Emma who was on the documentary as well.

There were lots of comments at the time of the documentary about why aren't the police on it. It makes sense now why they wouldn't. I feel like the police sort of planted the vulnerabilities comment into their presser yesterday knowing the truth would come out. When the journalist at the end of the session yesterday said she's had 3 texts in 5 minutes asking what the vulnerabilities are the SIO smiled as if acknowledging yes, we knew this would happen. They can't keep up searching indefinitely and they have to change the narrative from the mysterious disappearance of healthy happy mum, to the unfortunate drowning of a troubled woman in order to do that.

The whole thing is just a mess really. I desperately hope she's found alive and well but after 3 weeks it seems really unlikely.

Winnet · 16/02/2023 16:04

Renoir56 · 16/02/2023 15:16

And Mumsnet should do the same. They should stop the commenting on here.

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They wont though. This has shown MN to harbour a rather large number of ghoulish busy-bodies who have been driven into an obsessed frenzy by this poor families suffering and they descend on the thread with alarming regularity to feast on any new snippet of news, true or otherwise.

They claim to do so out of care or compassion. Nothing could be further from the truth; it excites them.

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:07

I wonder if it would be helpful or an option for another force to take over from Lancashire police. Regardless if they've done the right thing or not, they've caused such a negative backlash, speculation and they have now ignited the conspiracy theories.

From what we have heard from Paul and the family on interviews, does not match up the latest statement they've released from the family at all.

SoTedious · 16/02/2023 16:09

I would put money on it being the other way round - the police run it past the family before it was released.

It does read like it was written by the police tbf - it is a bit "the police are doing a great job, no thanks to you lot".

This bit: "we were aware", not we agreed or we requested or we fully sanctioned or they did it with our permission etc

As a family, we were aware that Lancashire Police, last night, released a statement with some personal details.

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:11

@Winnet I haven't really seen many post obsessing over the families 'suffering' but what is being highlighted and should continue to be highlighted is the apparent incompetents of the police. I don't think people should stop talking about it.

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:13

@SoTedious agree with all of this and it also relates to the stroppy, sarcastic press conference where it became obvious the police were more concerned with how they look

Bluekerfuffle · 16/02/2023 16:18

Don’t know how anyone could know that people are descending on a thread with alarming regularity unless they themselves are reading the whole thing constantly, which would be a very strange (hypocritical?) thing to do for someone who disapproves of it.

User45378754 · 16/02/2023 16:19

confounded234 · 16/02/2023 15:36

The family have been saying for the last 3 weeks that they aren't happy with the investigation, don't believe she would have harmed herself, don't believe she was in the river. If I were a police officer I'd be asking myself why are you putting forward this narrative in public, one that is so far from reality.

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‘The family’ haven’t been saying this for the past 3 weeks - PA and the friends have repeatedly held this narrative.

The rest of the family - sister and parents - have been noticeable by their silence after their interview in week one (IIRC)?

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 16/02/2023 16:19

They claim to do so out of care or compassion. Nothing could be further from the truth; it excites them.

Absolutely agree. It's clear from the various jokey emojis that people are just enjoying themselves. And then if she is found in the water it will descend into a mix of mawkish 'RIP darling Nikki, can't stop crying' posts and others still insisting that there must have been foul play (purely because that's more interesting). Vile.

JaneJeffer · 16/02/2023 16:20

Bluekerfuffle · 16/02/2023 16:18

Don’t know how anyone could know that people are descending on a thread with alarming regularity unless they themselves are reading the whole thing constantly, which would be a very strange (hypocritical?) thing to do for someone who disapproves of it.

They also know which newspapers have stopped comments and which have not. Talk about over invested.

RenoDakota · 16/02/2023 16:21

Winnet · 16/02/2023 16:04

They wont though. This has shown MN to harbour a rather large number of ghoulish busy-bodies who have been driven into an obsessed frenzy by this poor families suffering and they descend on the thread with alarming regularity to feast on any new snippet of news, true or otherwise.

They claim to do so out of care or compassion. Nothing could be further from the truth; it excites them.

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Exactly.

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:23

@Bluekerfuffle since day 1 one of these threads there has been just as many people 'descending' on to the thread to tell us off, quite often the same posters. Obsessed about us 'obssesing' but we are the unhealthy ones lol.

Februarynights · 16/02/2023 16:25

I originally thought that third party is involved, abduction or something sinister etc however after they revealed what they revealed yesterday, I think she just left. Especially with the phone left on the bench.
She could be well abroad, somewhere in retreat.
Anyone knows if her passport stayed home or disappeared as well?
There was a lady near me, very popular and busy hairdresser, with a huge clientele, picturesque family, kids, amazing house, lovely DH.
One day she just walked off- she flew to Sri Lanka and stayed there 5 months to clear her head… We as her clients did not know, even the DH did not know, only she contacted him through the hotel that she is ok and won’t be home for some months.
See these things happen if you are overwhelmed with life.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 16/02/2023 16:26

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ZeldaWillTellYourFortune · 16/02/2023 16:29

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:07

I wonder if it would be helpful or an option for another force to take over from Lancashire police. Regardless if they've done the right thing or not, they've caused such a negative backlash, speculation and they have now ignited the conspiracy theories.

From what we have heard from Paul and the family on interviews, does not match up the latest statement they've released from the family at all.

I was thinking the same; a more objective investigative body should probably take over at this point.

Commonsensitivity · 16/02/2023 16:32

Your opinion matter not to the investigation, Sarah Bulley or her family so what’s your point?

Well. I got her name right, at least. 🙄

01R019 · 16/02/2023 16:32

@ZeldaWillTellYourFortune I really think so. I wonder what needs to happen before this is decided.

I have honestly, never seen anything like it.