Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 8

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My phone is playing up. I wrote a FAQ and then it crashed and I lost it all.

I'm also dealing with a child on the spectrum who is bouncing off the walls this evening so I apologise for not being around much.

The family are using every resource and contact they have available. Good on them.
When my son was in hospital, the illness he had wasn't diagnosed at the time and I researched my arse off trying to find out what was going on. I was emailing doctors in the states and questioning everything that was done, every test, every theory.
Once his transplant was completed and the tests on the organ shown what the disease was, I got in touch with the leading doctor on the disease in America and he ended up liaising with the doctors here. This wouldn't have happened if I hadn't pushed for it.

I don't have the money and the contacts that Nicola's family and friends have, but I know for a fact that I would never just sit back and rely on the police to explore every avenue.

I said to myself at the time, if my son dies, at least I know I did everything in my power to help. There is no 'what if's' then. I could never live with a 'what if'.

Peter Faulding was critical of the police operation from the very start. This is what allowed him TV exposure and he has a book to sell. He could have gone about his business in a more professional way, but his top priority always seems to be public relations and maximising exposure in every situation.

The police have been quite the opposite and have handled media communications poorly. They did not consider it a priority.

Yes exactly this. Her friends and family are being critiqued, scrutinised and speculated about on some social media channels in the most awful way.

twitter.com/Independent/status/1625413416507650049?t=iigKJ7kBOzPiaUdAYXdymw&s=19

"Forensic search expert convinced Nicola Bulley not in river as he names ‘decoy’ items"

Yes, so he was, sorry, addled brain this morning.

I’ve done the same with dd and dm when they’ve been ill. In fact I found out what was wrong with my dm when a consultant said it wasn’t possible she had what I thought - he was wrong. And it was life threatening.

Always question people in authority. Doesn’t mean they are always wrong , but don’t just take their word for it, satisfy yourself they are right.

Paul is behaving exactly as I think I would. Researching and questioning.

In as much as a tragic accident is possibly the most likely solution to Nicola’s disappearance, two things stay at the forefront of my mind. One is the randomness of the murder of Lindsay Birbeck and the other is the wording of the people who know Nicola best, which is all about come home, we need to bring her home.

Perhaps I’m too literal, but I’ve not heard them speak as if they fear she’s been taken and held, it’s always that she would be free to return. Either unanimous wishful thinking, or, something unknown to the public?

One thing I’ve not seen and am not clear about is who all the land belongs to? The footpath from the bridge, the riverside walk and the two fields in question. Is some council owned and some private? The fields have hedges but no gates and are treated as common land I assume and widely used without restrictions by the general public with free access at all times.

Nicola represents so many of us. It’s astonishing that no one saw or heard anything and no clues have been found, none that the public are aware of. Traumatic for her family. Terrifying for her daughters and mind boggling for everyone else.

his top priority always seems to be public relations and maximising exposure in every situation

So why haven't we all heard of him before this? He's been involved in loads of high profile cases.

It was widely known Peter Faulding was involved in the April Jones case - try searching around 2012.

And do we know for sure that he didn't approach the force privately first and only went public when refused?

It was widely known Peter Faulding was involved in the April Jones case - try searching around 2012.

Yes we know that now because it's been brought to our attention. I certainly don't remember him on tv criticising the police and bigging himself up, I didn't hear his name and think of the case however I'm sure we will all remember his name in relation to this one.

I'd heard of him. I think the last time I saw him on TV was discussing Gareth Williams case, the man whose body was found in a bag in the bath.

I don't think PF should have done direct briefings to the press. He could have kept that information between the group directly involved. I think Lancashire Police should have provided the public with more frequent updates in the earlier days and searched the caravan park and land much quicker as empty caravan parks are well known as a site for antisocial activities, not always to the owners knowledge.

With Peter, you either die a hero or you stay long enough to become the villain.

Two things could be at play here -

1. He has a very good track record of finding people in water. He didn't find Nicola in his search and nor did the police. Now he could be convinced himself she is else where. I think this needs to be remembered.

1. He may be in contact with Nicola's close family. As he couldn't find Nicola in the river, he maybe be feeding in to what the family believe happened and is literally just trying to help them when it seems the police aren't ( or aren't in the way they or we think they should)

His job includes land and water search and rescue. It's not some random off YouTube, he is a professional. The family could have hired him in for the land search.

But reviewing his book 1 star is absolutely ridiculous and is basically the cancel culture.

I hope PF also searches the other bodies of water nearby. Not just the land.

I can't find anything from 2012, but he does say this now:

"We get paid to do police diving operations but I offered my services for a whole week to [murdered child] April Jones. There was no media for that, I never gave any interviews for that."

Much like the conspiracy theorists once you have an idea of what has happened, it's very easy for your brain to then link any other thing with what you think. I certainly has this happen in the first week of the case. Although police said they are keeping the lines open to other options, in the same breath they stated they believe Nicola likely, sadly fell in the river. So it could be questioned, how open they really are.

They had no evidence of the river, other than the fact Nicola may have been near water. They had no evidence of anything else either. But were they looking for anything else when they immediately assumed the 'obvious' in the hours that actually mattered, the first 24 hours.

I don't see the harm in Peter or anyone else with a professional job related to the cause helping the family. Many cold cases are solved by outside enforcements later on. As long as that family and any other family he helps feel like they are being listened to and know in their hearts they tried everything. They wouldn't be the first family to get other help, other than from just the police.

Totally agree with this.
If the family want Peter to search, I'm all for it. It's not like he's some randomer, this is literally his job.

He is already very high profile - his book was serialised in the Daily Mail in January before NB went missing.

Thanks for all the updates everyone.

I’ve seen a few people mention that the police don’t believe NB fell into the water by the bench, am I correct? Where has this information come from? Has there been another official police press briefing since the village hall one? It’s so hard to find anything online with the hundreds of tabloid articles basically saying the same thing but with a new spin.

@Goldpaw when was the last time you remember a case like this, blowing up this big in the media?

For me, the most bizarre thing is that (whether she fell in the river or had a medical episode or was dragged off), that there's zero evidence afawk. No poo bags, no keys, no "stuff" has turned up.

Well I never! That's me been wrong twice this morning! 😆 Wonder if I can make it a hat trick by lunchtime...

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It's not so much what they have said, it's what they haven't said.

However, In their updates and communication with the public, they have said their hypothesis is, Nicola likely, sadly, fell in the river. They've also said they don't believe a crime has been committed. They did say they're keeping an open mind, but it doesn't really seem like that are, in my opinion.

I hope they also check the cctv at the school over a long time range. Perhaps a fellow parent bore a grudge or had an obsession with Nicola and had been tracking her regularly from the school gate.