Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 8

[ofwarren]

Here's the new thread

My phone is playing up. I wrote a FAQ and then it crashed and I lost it all.

I'm also dealing with a child on the spectrum who is bouncing off the walls this evening so I apologise for not being around much.

Police say she fell in the water but they are investigating other avenues.

There aren't any 'top theories.'

Keeping an eye open mind, and an eye on any developments. The papers this morning seem to be focusing on hiw long it took for the witness to be listened to. Nine days feels like a long time.

God, my typos. 🙄

can I just thank you for the actions you’ve taken to protect Nik…..Means the world to everyone who knows her 💛 I’m not saying to much, trolls have been very cruel to everyone, especially towards Paul (Niks partner) - I’ve spent my days trying to avoid those nasty comments ……. And to come on here and read the protection from people towards Nik is heartwarming- Thank you 🙏 #findnicolabulley #findnik #whereisnicolabulley - Protect those who know her and help bring her home 💛💛

So what are the top theories at the moment?

That Lancashire police should ask for the case to be peer reviewed. Their only theory seems to have been disproved.

I am not sure if I believe that Nicola is sadly in the river, or elsewhere.
I do however, feel there is a possibility of criminality and therefore, that it is better to assume a perpetrator and increase the chances of bringing them to book, than to assume an accident and let them get off scot free and the family left without justice.

I have read a few articles lately on waterside lone female attacks/attempted attacks - this is in addition to the 2 missing men last sighted by the river Lune and Bridgewater Canal respectively.

I feel that it could be somebodies M.O to attack on quiet paths beside water, knowing they’re anonymous and that CCTV won’t operate on the paths.

my feeling is, if there is one then, a stranger is the perpetrator.

my concern also would be, the initial reluctance to consider anything other than an accident, could attract other attackers to consider these types of environments and planting seeds of accidents, as their M.O. I think the investigative stance needs to shut down the ideas of anybody who thinks like this.

I hope Nicola’s family get answers whatever they may be, and swift justice -
if a crime has been committed.

@Emlouisehbaae hats off to you and your friends/family network for doing all you can to get her home. Cannot begin to imagine living this kind of reality.

I've just started my half term, my kids too. I was just thinking how all NBs friends and family are going to be so much needed this week to help and support those two little girls.

IF this had happened (sighting in field - phone and dog by bench ect), without a body of water nearby, what would the police's first thoughts be?

Would it have immediately been a criminal investigation or would their first reaction be that she walked away of her own accord?

I just feel that it's like a big catch 22 at the moment.

Police: We think she went in the river, therefore we will search until the money runs out. There's no evidence to say she went in it's just what we think. The lack of body means nothing, we think she went into the river.

Hence my question: what would they 'think' if there was no river? Genuine Q.

Hello everyone , I hope things are a bit better today @ofwarren

The possibilities IMHO are:

Drowning - by accident, medical crisis, own choice, foul play

Abduction

Left her life to get some space

Took her own life somewhere else

Accident / medical crisis elsewhere

On face value each possibility would have stats / risks associated from usual accumulated U.K. wide data then this risk would be upgraded or down graded depending on personal context and these evaluations would then evolve again as time and further information comes in.

All IMHO are a possibility even if one is 99% and one is 1% - and I assume police would allocate and reallocate resources accordingly.

Thank you so much for this!
This is what we are trying to do, to keep people talking about Nicola, but to leave off with stupid speculation about family and friends.
I'm so sorry you have to read all that shit. We try hard to report all that and get it removed because it's cruel and unhelpful. I generally sift through the crap on the other sites and bring the genuine stuff here.

Thinking of all of you, and especially thinking of Nikki 💛

Morning
I've managed a lie in some how! 😅

Fingers crossed for a breakthrough today.
I was pleased to see Peter Faulding is looking to do a land search with the family. I really hope that goes ahead.

I also have soul searched (following a lot of the hostile questions from posters in these threads) as to why this case has struck a chord with me, aswell as so many other people, who are following Nicola’s story and discussing potential events.

I think there is of course human compassion and ‘demographic likeness’ (woman/mum and similar age) at play, but at least part of it for me (in the absence of knowing why the police were so adamant Nicola had gone into the river) is to pushback (on Nicola’s and all women’s behalf, by keeping Nicola’s story high profile and therefore the pressure on the police), at what feels like lazy stereotyping about how women in their 40s behave (the insinuation she’s either put herself into or fell into the river) and feels like it ‘perspectivizes’ the potential options of what has happened as a man would and so consequently underplays (or even doesn’t consider) the real threat many woman have faced/or fear they’ll face, when walking alone in semi secluded areas. I hope this comes across in the manner I intended it. Thoughts are with Nicola and family and friends 💐 .

Excellent post. I absolutely agree.

I also agree fully with this. So we'll articulated.

They were discussing this case on the Nick Ferrari show this morning. He had Martyn Underhill on who lead the investigation into Sara Payne.

It was interesting as he ran through the mistakes made by Lancs police whilst referring to the police guidelines on what they should have done. From what he said, they haven’t followed those guidelines.

He was on somewhere between 8.55 and 9.05. As an example, he said the bench ought to have been removed so it could be examined at a lab.

How can anyone know that a poster calling herself "emlouisebae" is actually Nicola Bulley's friend, and not some random weirdo who's drawn to a thread about a missing woman? Not saying that she isn't NB's friend, but I'd be wary about the way in which anyone can pretend to be anything at all on an anonymous forum online.

It is really good news that a land expert has come onto the scene. I just wish he had turned up earlier. He could have used dogs in door-to-door searches but they may be less effective two weeks later.
It was absolutely heartbreaking to read Paul's clear message to Nicola that he loves her. He comes across as the kind of person who finds it hard to express those kinds of feelings in public. But he came out with it loud and clear, it is a big deal but it is tragic that she may never know.

I agree.

We are all thinking of you Emlouisehbaae, you are in our thoughts and prayers.

This is obviously true
Emma is on one of the Facebook pages though. That's where some of the early information came from.

Quite. In fact if you look at the post, there’s every reason to think it’s not genuine. You’d think these crime ‘experts’ on here would at least pick up on a couple of things in the post.

Morning all, a couple of points from websleuths that I don't think have been discussed much on here:

1. The deep hole in the middle of the river at the area of the bench - has the depth of that been confirmed and how easy was that to search?
2. Silt levels in the river and the impact of that on the searches.

I also wanted to agree that the two 'fisherman' could easily be poachers. We get them from time to time on our land and they often try to hide their faces. They can also be very aggressive and threatening, if challenged.

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