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LoveMAFS · 2023-02-11T16:42:59+00:00

The chat appears to have gone quiet today after the last thread filled up, so I'm making a new one for anyone who wants to come together whilst we all hold our breath hoping for a good outcome.

Peverellshire · 12/02/2023 16:50

lemmein · 12/02/2023 16:12

100% this!

The police-cheerleaders are beyond tedious.

When I first heard about Nicola she'd already been missing a few days. I side-eyed it on the news, not really taking much notice then I heard SR say, with complete confidence, that they didn't believe a crime had been committed and no third party was involved - that piqued my interest. I'd never heard the police rule out criminality so early, it didn't make sense at all - the dry dog, the phone left on the bench, no sightings of a body in a relatively shallow, slow-moving river. Something didn't add up.

Seeing the media report from the bench area where they claimed Nicola had gone missing - WTF? No police tape, no footage of fingertip searches - in fact, I've hardly seen footage of police at the scene at all apart from divers. It's just not the usual way these things play-out, which leads to (perhaps unfair? Time will tell) criticism of the police, even by other police officers.

I sincerely hope the police are just biding their time, and are misdirecting the public on purpose for the greater good of the investigation because otherwise we are witnessing one of the biggest balls up in police history and that is too fucking depressing to contemplate. Nikki, and others like her....we all deserve better!

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I would say they are not ‘misdirecting’ resources to deliberately mislead, far too expensive. They don’t think she ‘fell in’ by the bench.

I would say, given what they’ve said, they do feel she entered the water elsewhere.: ‘That does not mean to say she wasn’t ever in the water’. They appeared to be, early on for sure, very confident to this end.

Our hope may be they have good evidence to this end. Surely, they must? What might it be? Fitbit/other device? Something else?

Bluekerfuffle · 12/02/2023 16:54

pigsinoodies · 12/02/2023 16:44

It's not on the 1967 map. It's irrelevant though. It's only a low weir and the water can rise over 4m when the river's high.

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This would have been 1978. Fair point about it being higher and faster moving then, although someone local did say at the start of these threads they had had quite a bit of rain in the area in late January.

Activelyannoyed · 12/02/2023 16:55

I think if they had good evidence her family would know. So I don’t think they do.

I also sadly think they aren’t going to find her proactively now. She could be found by someone spotting her, in the water, on the bank, someplace else, but I don’t think the police will now.

they will keep on it, till we all stop talking about it, then they will take the staff off of it, and it will become a cold case. Unless as said, someone spots her.

confounded234 · 12/02/2023 16:59

Activelyannoyed · 12/02/2023 16:55

I think if they had good evidence her family would know. So I don’t think they do.

I also sadly think they aren’t going to find her proactively now. She could be found by someone spotting her, in the water, on the bank, someplace else, but I don’t think the police will now.

they will keep on it, till we all stop talking about it, then they will take the staff off of it, and it will become a cold case. Unless as said, someone spots her.

I agree. If the police have solid evidence she fell in the river they clearly haven't shared it with the family. And given they are absolutely adamant that there is no foul play and to paraphrase SI Riley, they don't expect there to be any in this case, what possible reason could they have to withhold such information from the family?

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 17:01

@confounded234 unfortunately, and I may well be proven wrong which I'd like to be. But I think this is the lazy way out. She fell in the river.

I think they're struggling, it's a small village, not much goes on there to be pushed right in the limelight, they're out of the their depth.

CyberSpaceTraveller · 12/02/2023 17:06

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 16:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64614832?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_link_id=9702DEFE-AAEE-11ED-B03A-8A6996E8478F&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBC_North_West

The murder in the park in Cheshire yesterday was a young girl. Stabbed in broad daylight
Utterly dreadful
The world is a dangerous place for women.

I saw a TikTok video last night that someone had posted to warn people in the area that a prisoner had escaped from HMP Risley and he had info that this was connected to this attack.

May not be true of course but he seemed genuine and wanted to warn people. Why didn't the police and issue a description of escapee if so?

She was 16 and probably just gone for a walk on a sunny winter Saturday. Horrific.

Goldpaw · 12/02/2023 17:10

I just rewatched an interview with SI Riley at the scene. The press bod asked her if anything might have been lost evidence wise because of the lack of a police cordon round the area of the bench.

She said she was confident nothing had been lost by the time the first police officers arrived.

Am I right in thinking there was never a cordon and no evidence search made when the police got there?

confounded234 · 12/02/2023 17:14

"She said she was confident nothing had been lost by the time the first police officers arrived." That's an incredibly stupid thing to say by anyone's standards, let alone an SI in a missing person's case. How can she know nothing went missing if there were no cops there?

And I haven't seen anything to suggest the bench area was ever sealed off with CSI, although I stand to be corrected

confounded234 · 12/02/2023 17:16

If this article is correct 4 days after she went missing then the police only "sealed off" the path to let the divers work, www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11705215/Missing-mother-Nicola-Bulley-excitedly-making-plans-future.html

ImprobablePuffin · 12/02/2023 17:17

@ofwarren Do you think it would be beneficial if when there is a new thread you could start it and put all the frequently asked questions at the start again?

So many of the same questions that have already been answered countless times now.

Also think including a bit about how PA's 'bruise' is not bruising etc?

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 17:18

ImprobablePuffin · 12/02/2023 17:17

@ofwarren Do you think it would be beneficial if when there is a new thread you could start it and put all the frequently asked questions at the start again?

So many of the same questions that have already been answered countless times now.

Also think including a bit about how PA's 'bruise' is not bruising etc?

I will
The trolls HATE that though for some reason

confounded234 · 12/02/2023 17:18

Mark Williams-Thomas believes the bench was never sealed off at the beginning www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/nicola-bulley-search-ex-detective-26207255

Bekindnotarsey · 12/02/2023 17:19

For me there are only three things that could have happened to the poor lady

In the water sadly
Nicola has been Kidnapped
Nicola left on her own accord

However number three I do not think so, I read that the day before or the day of her disappearance, Nicola had signed for a mortgage..

fairydust11 · 12/02/2023 17:20

lemmein · 12/02/2023 16:12

100% this!

The police-cheerleaders are beyond tedious.

When I first heard about Nicola she'd already been missing a few days. I side-eyed it on the news, not really taking much notice then I heard SR say, with complete confidence, that they didn't believe a crime had been committed and no third party was involved - that piqued my interest. I'd never heard the police rule out criminality so early, it didn't make sense at all - the dry dog, the phone left on the bench, no sightings of a body in a relatively shallow, slow-moving river. Something didn't add up.

Seeing the media report from the bench area where they claimed Nicola had gone missing - WTF? No police tape, no footage of fingertip searches - in fact, I've hardly seen footage of police at the scene at all apart from divers. It's just not the usual way these things play-out, which leads to (perhaps unfair? Time will tell) criticism of the police, even by other police officers.

I sincerely hope the police are just biding their time, and are misdirecting the public on purpose for the greater good of the investigation because otherwise we are witnessing one of the biggest balls up in police history and that is too fucking depressing to contemplate. Nikki, and others like her....we all deserve better!

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Completely agree with you.
I’m truly puzzled by how the police have/are handling this.
The initial cock up with her clothing (which with a missing person the correct clothing is crucial), saying she is definitely in the water & ruling out a 3rd party instead of keeping an open mind (as even if she is in the water - that in no way rules out a 3rd party involvement), not releasing any cctv of her (the friends had to), not saying she had her keys on her & the description of them…their seeming incompetence is the reason why people are (wrongly) breaking into properties etc as some feel they’re not doing enough.
They really need to get a hold of this situation as it’s completely spiralling out of control.
It feels to me that for some odd reason they seem to want the case closed regardless of if they find her - hence the sea search - as they can say she washed out to sea, when the specialist has stated she wouldn’t even make it over the weir.
It’s really bizarre.

I truly hope I’m wrong with my judgment and hope they have information they need and are biding their time, but it really doesn’t seem that way.

ImprobablePuffin · 12/02/2023 17:20

plumduck · 12/02/2023 10:58

Why are people speculating about Paul's face?! The police will have looked at him. Why does it matter what's his face looks like? The police aren't thick.

Exactly. Paul would have been the first person police looked at. He's clearly not involved - it baffles me that people still think he could be.

And if people could actually read the threads they would learn that Paul has the same shadow/mark on his face in past photos.

Goldpaw · 12/02/2023 17:20

I find their confidence utterly perplexing.

Gramps52 · 12/02/2023 17:21

Bekindnotarsey · 12/02/2023 17:19

For me there are only three things that could have happened to the poor lady

In the water sadly
Nicola has been Kidnapped
Nicola left on her own accord

However number three I do not think so, I read that the day before or the day of her disappearance, Nicola had signed for a mortgage..

She is a mortgage broker.

Bekindnotarsey · 12/02/2023 17:24

Yes I realise, however pretty sure at the beginning Nicolas dad said, she wouldn’t have disappeared on her own as just signed a mortgage, apologises if I am wrong, but that always stuck in my mind.

LikeTearsInRain · 12/02/2023 17:24

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Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 17:25

@Goldpaw I do too. And also find people that don't question it perplexing too.

The people ruling anyone out are just as In the dark as the people ruling anyone in. The people that are saying trust the police have to accept their will be the same in equal who won't.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 17:26

@LikeTearsInRain I like to think I'm an open minded person. But comments like this baffle me.

pigsinoodies · 12/02/2023 17:26

Bluekerfuffle · 12/02/2023 16:54

This would have been 1978. Fair point about it being higher and faster moving then, although someone local did say at the start of these threads they had had quite a bit of rain in the area in late January.

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The water level on January 27th was only 9cm higher than today.

ImprobablePuffin · 12/02/2023 17:29

RainbowRoses2 · 12/02/2023 11:20

Who thinks that, there should be photographs circulated of the people she has spent time with in the last 2 months? Someone might not recognise Nichola, but they could recognise the individual who she was with. Then they could link them to an event that happened - perhaps some confrontation in a shop one day/Road rage incident that didn't directly involve Nichola but the person she was with. Her daughters could have been told off by a stranger, for example and someone who was a bystander to the scene may not recognise Nichola, but may recognise others involved and have information that is the key to this. If Nichola has been guilty by association with someone else, she could have been falsely targeted.

Her name is Nicola.

pigsinoodies · 12/02/2023 17:30

CyberSpaceTraveller · 12/02/2023 17:06

I saw a TikTok video last night that someone had posted to warn people in the area that a prisoner had escaped from HMP Risley and he had info that this was connected to this attack.

May not be true of course but he seemed genuine and wanted to warn people. Why didn't the police and issue a description of escapee if so?

She was 16 and probably just gone for a walk on a sunny winter Saturday. Horrific.

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They've confirmed that nobody's escaped from HMP Risley.

Goldpaw · 12/02/2023 17:32

Watching that interview, SI Riley says 60 officers are working on it, when she gave the previous presser she said 40.

Now, she could have made a mistake with the numbers (she is still calling Blackpool Lane, Garstang Lane, and when answering the question about a cordon thought she was being asked about council barriers not a police one) but if they have upped the numbers the enquiry is still very active.