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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 7

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LoveMAFS · 11/02/2023 16:42

The chat appears to have gone quiet today after the last thread filled up, so I'm making a new one for anyone who wants to come together whilst we all hold our breath hoping for a good outcome.

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Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:03

@Jourdain11 you can contribute something that you deem appropriate though. Instead you haven't, you've just judged everyone for their thoughts or posts. So yeah maybe don't continue

Leizal · 12/02/2023 16:08

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Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:08

Expressing an opinion is a contribution. Nobody has a chance to contribute anything alternative here because it's just endless conjecture, speculation, all apparently in the name of compassion and concern.

Rhondaa · 12/02/2023 16:08

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:01

And I'm not a "thorn in everyone's side", plenty people actually agree with me.

As for "still hanging around"; firstly, I can hang around where the hell I like; secondly, the fact that I posted and people respond/quote/tag does mean I'm now getting notifications. Yep, I don't have to keep coming back but I've said what I think now and nobody has come up with anything to significantly alter my opinion, so I shan't continue.

So you think women should sit down, shut up and trust the police? The police who have form for cocking up investigations?

If this were my family member I would want people to be talking about it.

Lindsaylosing · 12/02/2023 16:09

I've always had the view that the police know what they are doing and but the fact that they are not correcting falsely shared information is making me doubt this.

I had heard that Nicola's keys were in the car so I am shocked to find out that they were on her when she disappeared. This should be shared in case anyone finds them. If I came across a Mercedes key I wouldn't ring the police but I would now if I knew what her keyring looked like.

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:10

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That's a totally unfounded accusation and you can take it right back. Quit with the patronising "dear" crap as well, if you're so bothered about women's rights. I never said anything about women sitting down and shutting up, but yeah... you can't argue with stupid, so...

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:11

I could really understand if NB family have said, we believe she's in the river, please leave us alone now to greive and everyone else was on a bandwagon speculating, sharing opinions. But that isn't case. NB family believe something has happened to her. The interview and the things PA said about the village and out buildings etc will lead to more speculation. What they don't want is fingers being pointed at the family, they don't want people to stop talking about her or this case. They just don't want the FB group/Twitter posts of people accusing family members or locals. That is rarely happening on this thread.

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 16:11

Lindsaylosing · 12/02/2023 16:09

I've always had the view that the police know what they are doing and but the fact that they are not correcting falsely shared information is making me doubt this.

I had heard that Nicola's keys were in the car so I am shocked to find out that they were on her when she disappeared. This should be shared in case anyone finds them. If I came across a Mercedes key I wouldn't ring the police but I would now if I knew what her keyring looked like.

Agreed
Unbelievable they missed out that detail when describing what she had on that day! They definitely should have been mentioned.

lemmein · 12/02/2023 16:12

Rhondaa · 12/02/2023 15:39

'Agree with every word you say, Sadie. Have reported a couple of these threads, only to be met with weasel words from Mumsnet justifying this ghoul-fest.'

'Ghoul fest'. That in itself is a really inappropriate thing to say. There is nothing 'ghoul' like about this situation, it is a high profile, distressing case. Could be anyone of us, or our family or friends. The police are not instilling trust or confidence and seem a bit chaotic. As has been said no fingertip searches of surrounding areas for starters.

You don't get to tell women to be quiet. Women are targeted and attacked all the tiime and this nonsense about no third party involvement due to no evidence is really concerning. Treat it like there is a third party until proven otherwise .

100% this!

The police-cheerleaders are beyond tedious.

When I first heard about Nicola she'd already been missing a few days. I side-eyed it on the news, not really taking much notice then I heard SR say, with complete confidence, that they didn't believe a crime had been committed and no third party was involved - that piqued my interest. I'd never heard the police rule out criminality so early, it didn't make sense at all - the dry dog, the phone left on the bench, no sightings of a body in a relatively shallow, slow-moving river. Something didn't add up.

Seeing the media report from the bench area where they claimed Nicola had gone missing - WTF? No police tape, no footage of fingertip searches - in fact, I've hardly seen footage of police at the scene at all apart from divers. It's just not the usual way these things play-out, which leads to (perhaps unfair? Time will tell) criticism of the police, even by other police officers.

I sincerely hope the police are just biding their time, and are misdirecting the public on purpose for the greater good of the investigation because otherwise we are witnessing one of the biggest balls up in police history and that is too fucking depressing to contemplate. Nikki, and others like her....we all deserve better!

TrevTro · 12/02/2023 16:12

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 15:19

What gets me is people saying "we HAVE to find out." It's very possible that no one will ever find out what happened. One of my best friends died in a freak incident many years ago (we were both 13/14). No one could ever prove whether it was an accident or intentional. It was horrendous for her parents, but they did come to accept that they would never know. And you have to find a way to live with that.

Some people treat this like a game of Cleudo.

I don't think I've seen any poster say that. Could have missed it.

But the general feeling of wanting to know - well, sorry but of course the general public want to know what happened.

There's still a lot of hope that she'll be found and the family will have answers.

I take your point about closure/acceptance but I think that's a little too soon to be considering. Like, "oh it's been 2 weeks, that's that then?! Best not think about it, as we might never find out!" Surely you can see that's just daft.

JudgyMuch · 12/02/2023 16:13

plumduck · 12/02/2023 15:25

Some people treat this like a game of Cleudo.

Yeah or a TV show.

Agreed. And it is a ghoul-fest on here.

Rhondaa · 12/02/2023 16:15

'side-eyed it on the news, not really taking much notice then I heard SR say, with complete confidence, that they didn't believe a crime had been committed and no third party was involved'

I know. And people wonder why we are questioning it. Do they have to have cctv of a criminal before they believe a crime has been committed.

As an aside can we stop with the 'ghoul fest' comments. So inappropriate and insensitive.

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:16

TrevTro · 12/02/2023 16:12

I don't think I've seen any poster say that. Could have missed it.

But the general feeling of wanting to know - well, sorry but of course the general public want to know what happened.

There's still a lot of hope that she'll be found and the family will have answers.

I take your point about closure/acceptance but I think that's a little too soon to be considering. Like, "oh it's been 2 weeks, that's that then?! Best not think about it, as we might never find out!" Surely you can see that's just daft.

No, I completely get that they will literally continue until every last hope or option has gone. And I think most of us would do the same for friends or close family. But there's still a very real possibility that they will, sadly, never find out what happened.

The situation I mentioned is different I guess, because finding out anything wouldn't have changed the fact that she was dead. But it sure as anything would've given her parents some peace of mind.

TrevTro · 12/02/2023 16:18

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:08

Expressing an opinion is a contribution. Nobody has a chance to contribute anything alternative here because it's just endless conjecture, speculation, all apparently in the name of compassion and concern.

What alternative would you like discussed?

Posters are being regularly reminded to keep to facts and not jump to ridiculous levels of speculation. I've reported posts as have other posters, there is genuine compassion and genuine concern.

If all you see from these threads is 'deeply disturbing' then that says more about your own personal limits and you should perhaps reconsider your social media exposure.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:18

@TrevTro I've asked this poster the same. They haven't responded

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:19

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:18

@TrevTro I've asked this poster the same. They haven't responded

That's untrue. I have.

ofwarren · 12/02/2023 16:20

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64614832?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_ptr_name=facebook_page&at_link_id=9702DEFE-AAEE-11ED-B03A-8A6996E8478F&at_medium=social&at_link_origin=BBC_North_West

The murder in the park in Cheshire yesterday was a young girl. Stabbed in broad daylight
Utterly dreadful
The world is a dangerous place for women.

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:20

I also wonder, if we hadn't been asked to not "speculate" ( which I take as don't blame family and friends) would these people still say this is distasteful?

Leizal · 12/02/2023 16:20

Remember you can only control yourself dear (it's a term of enDEARment and you already agree to how a democracy works so ...) and not other people. Love how you said you would leave this thread yet here you still are responding to every reply and mention of you just because you 'receive notifications'. You sound starved of attention offline. Channel your dislikes elsewhere. Pop the kettle on or something. I'm off to have a discussion about a lady who's gone missing. Toodle-oo ...

808Kate1 · 12/02/2023 16:20

@Leizal I agree with @Jourdain11 and can assure you I am not her alias, "dear".

If this were my family member I would want people to be talking about it.

Really @Janiie? You'd want a steady stream of online obsessives with no expertise whatsoever speculating over a shadow (sorry, bruise) on your forehead?

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:21

@808Kate1 that's been a tiny part of this thread not the majority at all. Go to FB and Twitter, have a moan on there instead

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:22

@ofwarren bloody awful!! anything can happen at anytime of the day.

wordler · 12/02/2023 16:23

Shewasnthere · 12/02/2023 16:11

I could really understand if NB family have said, we believe she's in the river, please leave us alone now to greive and everyone else was on a bandwagon speculating, sharing opinions. But that isn't case. NB family believe something has happened to her. The interview and the things PA said about the village and out buildings etc will lead to more speculation. What they don't want is fingers being pointed at the family, they don't want people to stop talking about her or this case. They just don't want the FB group/Twitter posts of people accusing family members or locals. That is rarely happening on this thread.

But they understandably want to believe there’s a chance she could still be alive. If they accept the river theory then she’s definitely dead at this point. Holding on to hope that she’s been abducted means there’s a chance she’s still alive.

OldTinHat · 12/02/2023 16:23

@ofwarren
The report I linked to quotes this: He said that the river conditions when Roger went missing 45 years ago were “pretty similar” to the conditions Nicola may have faced in the River Wyre, adding: “He was obviously swept over the weir and into the tidal part of the river.”
That implies the weir was there 45yrs ago?

Jourdain11 · 12/02/2023 16:24

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