Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 5

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A new thread about the disappearance of Nicola Bulley in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire.

I also don't get why people think the area is pretty, maybe because this has happened I feel this way but I get a bad vibe from it, it looks lonely and creepy there and I love countryside areas and such but I've not liked anything I've seen

Where did you read this information?

Do you have a credible source please?

@Peverellshire I'm not sure what point you're making with that?

Same name as the (maybe former) Operations Manager of SGI. So coincidences can happen!

None of that makes sense. Firstly, the police will have access to all her comms and have spoken to her colleagues on the call so know what was discussed.

Even if say she'd been made redundant and it causes anxiety nobody would react thinking I'll kill myself on the spot. Whilst something like that could make you suicidal, you'd take the time to plan how you'd do it.

Also method, pretty ineffective to think 'oh I'll drown myself'. When your body's in that situation instinct kicks in and reflexively you'd go up for air. If someone drowns its usually because they were physically unable to breathe.

Then also what benefit would you have in nobody knowing you'd done it and the body not been found, no closure for your family etc.

I think this is because she’s handling it all single handedly and not letting the SIO comment. She’s trying to answer very granular questions, when she won’t be in at the granularity. She isn’t the cio. I imagine it’s likely a chief inspector.

she likely doesn’t wish the SIO front and centre, either she doesn’t want them bothered, the person may change, and what division they are could lead to speculation Ie is it serious crime division who is heading this up or is it missing persons.

I cannot understand why the police have gone straight to an adult woman falling down a banking, without leaving a mark, into rather slow moving water, being able to swim but drowning and disappearing despite it being slow moving, no signs of her being in the water, even far down the river, her being able to swim, her dog being totally dry and not at the waters edge. I don't understand WHY they think she's in the water.

I feel like the most plausible explanation for a (especially beautiful, sorry but it has occurred to me) woman disappearing is a man doing something to her.

A very considered summary indeed.

I had local knowledge re the Joanna Yeats tragedy. The DI leading the enquiry had rabbit caught in the headlights, completely out of my depth and all this on top of Christmas written all over his face from day 1.

Mr Jefferies is a man of enormous intellect who fortunately had the strength of character to overcome his ordeal, and turn it to a force for good (he sued the arses off a number of newspapers too). The newspapers issued apologies, as did the Police. He later assisted with the Leveson Inquiry.

@Activelyannoyed Thank you - that explanation makes sense. She's definitely not helping.

Not wanting to cast aspersions on NB, we don't know, but we all care and can identify, it's just shocking and bewildering, I keep thinking about her daughters in particular. Surely, some kind of closure soon....

@pink85 I don't think we can assume the poilce would be entirely open with the family, especially if they can't yet completely confirm? I don't know what the procedure is?
@Bluebellwood129 which major errors has SR made part from the dog? Thx.

@martinisforeveryone good points, unless incompetent, my surmise is they are almost certain she's towards the sea and looking for generic clothes and boots etc? Otherwise even in the days of yore in the 80s on Crimewatch they had replicas of the clothes and much more.

@Commonsensitivity The police don't feel to me like they are engaging with this third party at all, despite their open mind. NB: press conference words, verbatim upthread, SR is dogmatic, this is a Missing Persons enquiry for all the reason she gives. The window for nefarious activity is also very tiny and surely they'd need to search the occupied pods and caravans if entertaining this seriously? As far as know they haven't, only the vacant ones??

SR was also quite worried about the bench as a hazard and the slippy banks she'd have to warn people, I think (?) if there was any chance of a an abductor or danger lurking? But I could be wrong?

I hope she is found safe. I’ve been following the case closely and it has certainly made me think about my behaviour. I regularly walk along a canal path in the midlands. I can do 5 miles there and 5 miles back without seeing a soul. I have been chased on the path before and also noticed others lurking in the bushes in hoodies etc. I assumed that the individuals were likely homeless but harmless. I have been raped too but not along the canal and in very different circumstances (spiked abroad).

I never walk in the dark so always assumed I was safe. If anything, this case has highlighted to me how dangerous towpaths are even in daylight. The reports of women being attacked and murdered disgust and terrify me. I really hope she has left of her own accord although I appreciate it is unlikely.

I am so glad to hear about Mr Jeffries, he sounds a very interesting and courageous man. Many people don't recover form that sort of ordeal, it speaks of great strength of character. I am sure he must have been distraught about Joanna Y, too.

They would do and think that if they were told or thought she was suicidal. It’s also something they wouldn’t reveal.

There are no occupied pods or caravans because the caravan park isn't open until March. The police are apparently using it as their base and all caravans have been searched.

The second park (Rowanwater) is part residential and many lodges may be occupied. As far as I know we've no information on whether they've been searched.

Because they have more information than they are sharing, well we know they do, but they won't entertain this perpetrator theory and SR lists their reasons clearly upthread.

My personal feeling is they almost have proof she's downstream and that is why SR is foreshadowing a bit talking about the amount of reinforcements that can be drawn in if necessary to help find her (in the water)?

If I am right then there are some obvious pitfalls with this approach, aren't there, she says it is quite normal not to share everything with the public (I am sure it is) but couldn't this become very problematic as time ticks by, not to mention very difficult for her? Again what would be the usual procedure in these circumstances?

NB: Love your user name I am thinking of Vardy and Rooney now. 'I don't know any Davey Jones' wasn't it? LOL!

Thank you so much for the reply, that's helpful and reassuring.

The most likely third party involvement is that someone helped her get away. There would be some physical evidence of an altercation imo either in the field or by the river if she had had a struggle.

It's not impossible she's been abducted but it is unlikely. It is also unlikely she fell in the river by the bench.

She is a significant missing person, the police will be looking at all possibilities despite what some on this thread are suggesting.

@Peverellshire Nicola's clothing and the non-existent ball are two others. Activelyannoyed has kindly shed some light on why SR has made these errors.

Her route was visible on Strava

Actually, it isn't. Her Strava last updated in November, so either she stopped using it, or changed her privacy settings (but not retrospectively)

The walk that The Sun published must be an old one in the same general area

Or somewhere else.

There was a very short window of time for a random attack and abduction, there were multiple people milling about the area and there has been no evidence of any kind of attack. No one has seen anything, there's no sign of a struggle.

In cases where a person disappears beside a body of water by far the most likely scenario is that they entered the water. Remember people who drown in rivers often do so intentionally.

That must be a huge strain on her, I sympathise, especially if this continues for a while.

What?

How can you almost have proof someone is downstream. You either have a body or you don’t.

Maybe posters are too young to remember the absolute certainty that Claudia Lawerence was a MP not a potential murder victim - until they turned the investigation into a murder enquiry.

I'm watching Disappeared at the moment, and they just said that there are 600,000 missing people in the USA right now (filmed in 2021). Its so baffling and frightening.

I know it's highly controversial, but wish we had the option to chip people.

There's only a very short window for the attack and disappearing Nicola if you assume that she left the phone on the bench and that she fell in the water. If you take out those 2 assumptions, then the police weren't called till 10.50 and there's a big window for third party involvement, or indeed for Nicola to walk away avoiding CCTV. Given that the police have not released any footage or images of Nicola other than her getting into her car, then we can only assume that the CCTV coverage is actually terrible around there and it's much easier to wander off than is being portrayed