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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 5

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 20:38

A new thread about the disappearance of Nicola Bulley in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire.

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Strictlyfanoftenyears · 09/02/2023 10:10

Goingforasong · 08/02/2023 21:32

I think it would be very strange for Nicola to have left her phone on a bench whilst on a call.

I spent some time working near a popular suicide spot. We were given some training by the police and one thing they say is that it is common for those that commit suicide to leave their phones (and wallets) somewhere. They told us to call 999 if we ever found a phone in the area. I wonder if the police have reason to suspect suicide in this case, and if she understood the river, she may have gone in and drowned on the other side of the weir after leaving her dog and phone in an obvious place where they would be found by another walker.

I am so so sad about this but I do believe that you be spot on in this theory. She knew the dog would possibly go in after her so she made sure Willow was not near her. Left her phone too.

Suzi888 · 09/02/2023 10:10

Ahh I see you have…. I’ve reported my own post 🤦🏼‍♀️

Bitteplease · 09/02/2023 10:11

Missed out a key bit of commentary!

I've followed but not been able to read absolutely every message, so apologies if this has been mentioned before.

The initial strange thing to me was the phone that was left on the grass, next to a tree which didn't fit with suicide. But, thinking about it, could it not be that she left the phone on the bench (with the teams call on so that people would be able to track her and the dog), then leaving over the fence to take herself to deeper water somewhere else? Then the dog managed to knock the phone off the bench afterwards?

I wonder if there is anything, either what she has said/done previously, that suggests to the police that it was suicide and that, therefore, they concentrated their efforts on the river?
It would be interesting to know if the story about the boy who drowned 45 years on the day had appeared in any media prior to her going missing as something like that could be triggering

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:13

This reply has been deleted

Withdrawn at poster's request

This is what the pp got a deletion for.
People need to go to the police with the info, not hypothesise things like this on mumsnet.

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crocusfocus · 09/02/2023 10:13

There are a few things (amongst many) I do not understand. Very puzzling.
I am sure the police are all over it.

1.)If someone abducted her and she was on a teams call then the they are running a huge risk about being identified . I doubt any time to check the victim are muted and camera hidden on a teams call

2.) if in the water surely an air pod, a hat or a small bag would be found , in the water or the bank or as she fell. To tumble without losing an airpod or a hat on the bank doesn't seem likely

3.) the fit bit data - perhaps they police have this and this is why they are convinced poor Nicola was in the water. The fitbit should be able to tell temperature and heart rate etc But then the family would not say there is no evidence?

Togoodtobeforgotten · 09/02/2023 10:13

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:08

Finally something got deleted
These people are nuts

I really do think the police are best being left to it otherwise the affect on not only the family but other people could be devastating.

7eleven · 09/02/2023 10:15

SerafinasGoose · 09/02/2023 10:07

I recall the terrible hounding of Christopher Jeffries who was wrongly pilloried as the local weirdo when he was wrongly accused of the murder of Joanna Yeats.

Plenty of people are arrested as suspects and later eliminated from police inquiries, but it was open season on this man. Why? Because he had an unconventional haircut.

This kind of behaviour has destroyed people, whose social missteps have been small and insignificant compared with the self-righteous moral indignation and hate campaigns levelled against them, sometimes on a very public and national level. Joanne Lees is another name that springs to mind, and there are countless others.

People never learn. Why can't humans help themselves?

This is exactly why these threads shouldn’t exist. Even though most people aren’t posting spurious comment, those that are are read by many people before sometimes being taken down.

If @mumsnet was a responsible organisation, it wouldn’t allow these posts to be made at all.

Niels66 · 09/02/2023 10:15

Following this case from Netherlands, it is surely the most astounding missing case I can think of. Clear daylight, open scenery (not a dark wood), people around, totally unbothered seemingly happy-as-ever dog, busy communicating person suddenly gone, crucial cctv camera not working... I have seen footage of this bench and to me it seems extremely unlikely she "just" falls in the water and "just" drowns, without also any physical marks. I can only logically deduce lines of research: her client contacts, work related issues, marriage etc. I have a guess what has happened. The dog's behavior intrigues me to the max...

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:15

And we know this is a guy in the village how?

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Bitteplease · 09/02/2023 10:16

Bitteplease · 09/02/2023 10:11

Missed out a key bit of commentary!

I've followed but not been able to read absolutely every message, so apologies if this has been mentioned before.

The initial strange thing to me was the phone that was left on the grass, next to a tree which didn't fit with suicide. But, thinking about it, could it not be that she left the phone on the bench (with the teams call on so that people would be able to track her and the dog), then leaving over the fence to take herself to deeper water somewhere else? Then the dog managed to knock the phone off the bench afterwards?

I wonder if there is anything, either what she has said/done previously, that suggests to the police that it was suicide and that, therefore, they concentrated their efforts on the river?
It would be interesting to know if the story about the boy who drowned 45 years on the day had appeared in any media prior to her going missing as something like that could be triggering

The more I think about it, I think this is what happened, sadly.

drpet49 · 09/02/2023 10:16

Togoodtobeforgotten · 09/02/2023 09:38

If someone had harmed her wouldn't they just chuck the phone in the river?

Exactly this.

UpWardCat · 09/02/2023 10:16

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 09/02/2023 10:10

I am so so sad about this but I do believe that you be spot on in this theory. She knew the dog would possibly go in after her so she made sure Willow was not near her. Left her phone too.

I think you are making some very good points Sad
This is the most believable angle I have seen on all the threads. If so, it's very, very sad. 💔

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:17

drpet49 · 09/02/2023 10:16

Exactly this.

The diver Peter Faulding said it could be a possible decoy.

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Peverellshire · 09/02/2023 10:18

MucozadeOnLucozade · 09/02/2023 09:49

I used to do quite a few walks by myself in the countryside. I would get whatapp to broadcasts my location within nine metres to my husband's phone and he could see where I was on a map, just in case something happened. Annoyingly the location thing on WhatsApp doesn't work anymore.

I really hope the police find answers for the family. I am sure something will be discovered from the dash cam footage.

I really don't believe someone would attack when there is a huge very visible security camera overlooking the area.

I have looked on Strava what the usual route would be when she does this walk. She'd already done the loop and gone back to the bench. I believe she left via the gate so the dog couldn't follow her.

Keeping the family in my thoughts.

They are writing to people, (out of area) I think? I can't help not feeling terribly hopeful, ow many have dashboard cameras etc? Which is the window they are looking at, do you know? It's quite a precise time slot.

I also feel that they expect her to be closer to the sea which is why they have been so specific on her clothing, maybe that and a poss sighting? There was a local woman who allegedly knew her and claimed to see her on Saturday, I think? And had been in touch with the police who she said were not interested I think, or something like that.

Togoodtobeforgotten · 09/02/2023 10:18

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:15

And we know this is a guy in the village how?

It said he still lives there meaning Essex.

Commonsensitivity · 09/02/2023 10:18

And we know this is a guy in the village how?

He commented on her Facebook page.

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:20

Commonsensitivity · 09/02/2023 10:18

And we know this is a guy in the village how?

He commented on her Facebook page.

How do you know the guy who commented on her Facebook page is the same guy in the newspaper report?

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Peverellshire · 09/02/2023 10:20

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 09:53

@Peverellshire The police weren't there pronto. Based on the information released to the public, Willow was found at around 9:30 at the same time as Nicola's phone and the harness were found. Nicola's partner didn't report her missing until 10:50.

They were when they knew about NB, I think? SR said so, anyway.

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 10:20

UpWardCat · 09/02/2023 10:16

I think you are making some very good points Sad
This is the most believable angle I have seen on all the threads. If so, it's very, very sad. 💔

This doesn’t explain why they can’t find her. If she drowned, she’d sink and they searched a long way and used helicopter.

and I don’t believe everyone who harms someone is an idiot, leaving the phone as a decoy is smart. And If someone has hurt her, then it’s worked

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:21

Togoodtobeforgotten · 09/02/2023 10:18

It said he still lives there meaning Essex.

Idiots just googling 'nicola' 'essex' and making idiotic assumptions.

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BrassAndBamboo · 09/02/2023 10:22

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 10:20

How do you know the guy who commented on her Facebook page is the same guy in the newspaper report?

This. Looks like a fairly common name to me.

UpWardCat · 09/02/2023 10:22

It could be Nicola's own decoy if she didn't want to be found for some reason (there could be many reasons). She left Willow and her phone. She knew willow would be safe as the area is gated. Then she walked on and went in where the river is more treacherous.

sixtiesbaby88 · 09/02/2023 10:23

Ok, at risk of being flamed here... but I haven't read anything about river traffic. I live close to a river and there can be quite a few dodgy characters living on or using boats. I don't walk along parts of the tow path now because they are too intimidating.
Could it be someone in a dinghy on the river asked for a hand doing something, she put her phone down still connected as she thought she'd only be a minute, but was pulled onto the boat. Dog ran alongside the boat hence found dry but a fair way along the river.

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 10:23

Peverellshire · 09/02/2023 10:20

They were when they knew about NB, I think? SR said so, anyway.

Yes, I agree that they were at the scene quickly once she was reported missing. My point was that Sally Riley said that Willow was not found until after Nicola had been reported missing - so that would mean after 10:50. The information released to the public states that Willow was found at 9:35.

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