Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 5

[ofwarren]

A new thread about the disappearance of Nicola Bulley in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire.

Thank you for that.

Has there been any report of her interactions on the work team's call
Was she just listening and disappears or was she speaking on minute then gone ?

I've scanned these threads but not posted until now. It's natural people - women especially - will want to talk about this. The 21st century is a horrible time to be a woman. Any short window of progress we made from around the 1970s and 80s has now regressed to a pre-suffragist level of misogyny. Women constantly have to assess our safety: we are heckled, shouted at and have to vary our routes when we go out running, we experience workplace harassment, unwanted touching; all these issues being the lower level of most women's experience. Trains, IME are now dangerous places for women. I can tell numerous stories of harassment on trains that have happened to me alone. Then there's the more serious stuff. The stalking, sexual offences, and murder, sadly not rare occurrences, so that it chills us to the bone when we read of cases like Nicola's.

The fate of these poor women brings every women's situation into stark relief. Emma Pattison and her daughter, Sarah Everard, the hideous events that happened during her vigil, the reams of names read out every year for 'Counting Dead Women'. Last time a name released every five minutes on Twitter - the complete list took 8 HOURS to work its way through the system. We have a systemic problem of hatred against women and I don't know what the hell we do about it. I hope against hope that Nicola hasn't come to harm, but after this length of time, her trail apparently cold, it seems an increasing assumption that she has.

A PP upthread makes the point that any perpetrator might not necessarily have been a male. IF there's a perpetrator, then of course it was. The statistics speak for themselves. Crimes like this - particularly opportunist crimes - committed by women against women are vanishingly rare. This, at least, isn't a matter of conjecture or opinion.

How do they even know that's the same guy?
Just Internet sleuths clutching at straws again
The owner of the house and his family are well known and liked in the village according to friends of the family.

Just listening and on mute

That link doesn't work, is this Internet hearsay or is there a credible source?

Ruling out third party?

I worry the longer this goes on, the more the pitchforks will get sharpened, there's some bonkers stuff out there but it could get worse. The man that lives in the derelict occupied and allegedly is fending off trespassers.

How does it work with privacy? SO for example, the police have NB's phone, if they find anything there that might give a lead etc would they share with P? Or hold back until more certain?

Occupied HOUSE, of course.

There is this theory that the police very rare disclosure suicide cases as it will encourage other people doing it in the same way for the weeks ahead, as the days go by, I started believing more that she voluntarily went in the water and was not a freaking accident, hence the ball theory

The link works for me and its total bollocks.

It is very unfair to deep dive into the lives of people whose only crime is to own a house near to the scene.

Exactly
Poor guy had people trying to break in last night.

I've followed all the threads but noticed on this one people talking about the cctv being broken 2 days prior to NB disappearing. I don't think I've read that anywhere else, can anyone confirm where they have seen that info? I knew it was broken but didn't know there was a known timescale on that so interested to know where that info has come from.

Also it's been said by family/friends that is wasn't always Nicola that did the walk, sometimes Paul did it.

If the cctv had been broken for 2 days prior, I wonder who walked the dog on those days? Was it PA on those days? Had someone broken it on purpose but then had to wait for a day that Nicola was walking the dog?

I want to believe the police when they say they have checked every possible scenario but I can't bring myself to believe she is in the river.

The Facebook comment says 3 days ago.. it looks like a creep who has commented that after her disappearance rather than before.. unless the screenshot was taken on the first day or two 🤔

The Tilly Ann woman who posted saying the house hadn't been searched seems to have either privated or removed her Facebook? It's strange that all Nicola's friends are saying different things!

Do you not think that if this person is entirely innocent that this being dragged up will cause no end of problems for him? And that he maybe finding this hellish? And then having stranger's turn up at his house? Must be tortureus if he's innocent which is why I think it's really unfair that people are sharing it.

Unfortunately tip of the iceberg and the longer the ambiguity goes on I fear the worse it will get. The woman is local who 'tied dog to bench' but I feel increasingly the bench is a diversion away from where they feel she is more likely to have gone in. PF was very confused and it might just point to that, he wasn't as confused when he knew more. My takeaway, ?

All involved if they haven't already, should lock FB down. Too many eyes are on them all and there are children shown, etc, I would guess?

It's a shame they can't lock Nicola's down. I read that people are commenting all over her photos.
I expect the police watch what people write though. Its not uncommon for perpetrators to go onto Facebook and comment. That nurse who has allegedly killed babies did it.

I recall the terrible hounding of Christopher Jeffries who was wrongly pilloried as the local weirdo when he was wrongly accused of the murder of Joanna Yeats.

Plenty of people are arrested as suspects and later eliminated from police inquiries, but it was open season on this man. Why? Because he had an unconventional haircut.

This kind of behaviour has destroyed people, whose social missteps have been small and insignificant compared with the self-righteous moral indignation and hate campaigns levelled against them, sometimes on a very public and national level. Joanne Lees is another name that springs to mind, and there are countless others.

People never learn. Why can't humans help themselves?

This bloke was apparently a suspect in his fiancé's dissappearance but was never charged. No evidence found. Her name was also nicola 😳

Finally something got deleted
These people are nuts

Where is the evidence??
Don't just say unsubstantiated shit, it's unfair.
Newspaper report?

I've followed but not been able to read absolutely every message, so apologies if this has been mentioned before.

The initial strange thing to me was the phone that was left on the grass, next to a tree which didn't fit with suicide. But, thinking about it, could it not be that she left the phone on the bench (with the teams call on so that people would be able to track her and the dog), then leaving over the fence to take herself to deeper water somewhere else?

I wonder if there is anything, either what she has said/done previously, that suggests to the police that it was suicide and that, therefore, they concentrated their efforts on the river?

It would be interesting to know if the story about the boy who drowned 45 years on the day had appeared in any media prior to her going missing as something like that could be triggering.