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Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 5

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 20:38

A new thread about the disappearance of Nicola Bulley in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire.

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dottiedodah · 09/02/2023 08:27

This is a sad and worrying case for sure .I am of the opinion that if she had of entered the water ,surely some clues would have come to light by now? There is the possibility that she met someone she knew ,and may have come to harm at their hands or simply the unthinkable that she has disappeared of her own choice .(There is a sad article in the Telegraph ,of a young woman whose husband disappeared on a hike) A year on and still no news.Hopefully this is not the outcome here.

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 08:27

User45378754 · 09/02/2023 08:24

Just been revealed the Caravan park near where #NicolaBulley disappeared was owned by Ansell engineering and Paul Bulley was a Director of the company. Maybe some one had an issue with them? who knows.

What is your source for this please?

Randomer on twitter because I've seen it myself. So no source at all.

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ofwarren · 09/02/2023 08:29

pigsinoodies · 09/02/2023 08:21

He owned Ansell Engineering until 2019. It doesn't exist now. But it's irrelevant anyway since it wasn't based at the caravan park and doesn't own it.

Some arse has googled the company's former address, seen that it's next to a caravan park and the river, assumed it's the caravan park that's being discussed and made up a story about him owning it.

Exactly. That park isn't even in St Michael's.

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Oaktree55 · 09/02/2023 08:29

Activelyannoyed · 09/02/2023 07:43

I think you need to understand further, about where it’s tidal. The depth on going in, the timelines, what searches have been done. What ir was when she went in etc, then you’d be as surprised as the experts.

One expert who if you analyse his and daft words has never said it’s impossible she’s gone over the weir. The police experts are still running with the theory she went in.

Renoir56 · 09/02/2023 08:31

dawngreen · 09/02/2023 08:11

He owns Ansell engineering though. But why walk else where to enter the water? has her dog had a issue down near the weir? I don't think she is the suicide type. I still think some one approached her making her get up dropping the harness and phone. I think who ever approached she knew the person.

You deeply misunderstand suicide. There isn't a 'type'.

User45378754 · 09/02/2023 08:31

pigsinoodies · 09/02/2023 08:07

If she fell in past the weir - i.e. on her way back to the car - the dog and phone wouldn't be at the bench.

Unless she chose to go into the river at this point.

Many people who take their own life leave processions nearby.

I think this scenario is understandably the elephant in the room and avoiding those thoughts is why it’s easier / more comfortable to speculate on other options.

Notaboutyouthistime · 09/02/2023 08:32

Goldpaw · 08/02/2023 21:33

It was low tide around 9.30am that day, so the river would have been at its shallowest. High tide not long after 3pm, so she could have floated slowly down between those times I suppose (although Peter F said it was extremely shallow at points and the dinghy got stuck), then the tide would have come in if she hadn't reached the bay and pushed her back up the river.

I think if it had been high tide it would be more plausible that she entered the water, was washed over the weir somehow, and was then washed downstream and into Morecambe Bay by an outgoing tide.

The diving expert said there was no tidal movement in that part of the river.

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 08:32

coffeesunrise · 09/02/2023 08:08

The most likely scenario by far is that she’s further down the river or at sea. The chances of her being abducted or staging a disappearance are vanishingly small generally, never mind in this scenario where it’s been actively investigated and there’s nothing to suggest it so far.

Sadly people drown every week, it’s entirely normal to search and then when that’s exhausted, wait.

I think people want evidence she went in the river, when in reality the fact she can be placed there and then has never been seen again, is the ‘evidence’. It’s not a criminal case and there’s no reason it should be.

Nicola being beyond the weir casts doubt on the whole main working hypothesis of the police - they appear pretty sure she entered the water by the bench where her belongings were found. If Nicola entered somewhere else, why was Willow found by the bench? If she entered elsewhere then the chances of finding evidence have probably been greatly reduced.

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 08:34

@Oaktree55 Numerous locals who know the river well have also supported his observations.

7eleven · 09/02/2023 08:34

Given that people die by suicide and their immediate family had no idea they felt like that, I’m certain that a random person on mumsnet, who two weeks ago had never heard of Nicola Bulley has absolutely no reason to declare them ‘not the suicide type’

Fucking batshit and yet another reason why these threads are so offensive.

LadyHarmby · 09/02/2023 08:35

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 08:32

Nicola being beyond the weir casts doubt on the whole main working hypothesis of the police - they appear pretty sure she entered the water by the bench where her belongings were found. If Nicola entered somewhere else, why was Willow found by the bench? If she entered elsewhere then the chances of finding evidence have probably been greatly reduced.

To be fair, I’m not sure they ever specified where they think she went in, just that she went in. They’ve searched the whole lot, both above and below the weir.

7eleven · 09/02/2023 08:35

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 08:27

Randomer on twitter because I've seen it myself. So no source at all.

Maybe it would be responsible not to repost unsubstantiated gossip?

HymenOrNot · 09/02/2023 08:36

The flow of water over the weir will vary according to the amount of rainfall in the upstream catchment area but also due to adjustments in other parts of the flood management system eg opening of flood-gates etc upstream

Eg opening of flood-gates, sluices leading to short periods of increased flow over the weir which might be enough to take a body over

This used to happen at a weir near where I used to live when the water level of a reservoir was being reduced

Obviously, the police will be aware of any additional run-off which could have increased the depth of water at the weir

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 08:37

7eleven · 09/02/2023 08:35

Maybe it would be responsible not to repost unsubstantiated gossip?

And just leave the information there uncorrected?
I've reported it to mumnet, the only other thing I can do is inform others that it's bollocks. Leaving no comment on it helps nobody.

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Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 08:38

@LadyHarmby Sally Riley speculated that there was an issue with the dog and mentioned a non-existent ball so it was fairly clear that she believed it was in the area of the bench.

Plitvice · 09/02/2023 08:39

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 22:55

I wonder why Tilly Ann says it's not been searched?
She's definitely a friend as she is friends on Facebook with both Nicola and Paul.
Maybe she's not as close to them as she says she is.

I gather this post was made by the owner of the 'not-abandoned house' or their family.

Wheresthebeach · 09/02/2023 08:44

The whole thing is deeply disturbing. The Police seeming to be sure that she was in the river - I'd have thought they would have waited to comment until there was some clarity around what happened rather than speculating that she fell in throwing a ball for the dog. It doesn't seem that they kept all options open with the investigation, rather that they went down one narrow route.

The family bringing in a dive team shows that they don't have confidence in the police investigation.

While people go missing all the time, the details...dog, phone and calls, leaving 2 children all combine to make it both tragic and baffling.

drpet49 · 09/02/2023 08:45

User45378754 · 09/02/2023 08:31

Unless she chose to go into the river at this point.

Many people who take their own life leave processions nearby.

I think this scenario is understandably the elephant in the room and avoiding those thoughts is why it’s easier / more comfortable to speculate on other options.

ive always suspected this scenario

User45378754 · 09/02/2023 08:45

Plitvice · 09/02/2023 08:39

I gather this post was made by the owner of the 'not-abandoned house' or their family.

I wonder why Tilly Ann says it's not been searched?
She's definitely a friend as she is friends on Facebook with both Nicola and Paul.
Maybe she's not as close to them as she says she is.

Because she hasn’t a clue.

She is not privy to all activities or info that the police are working on and is too ignorant or grandiose to consider this.

Her posting was inflammatory and had appalling consequences for that family and no doubt the investigation.

I see she has since rowed back.

The communications are a mess. They need to leave it to the police.

ofwarren · 09/02/2023 08:45

Plitvice · 09/02/2023 08:39

I gather this post was made by the owner of the 'not-abandoned house' or their family.

She's since corrected it
Doesn't stop the newspapers still running with the story unfortunately

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RoseMadderAsHell · 09/02/2023 08:46

User45378754 · 09/02/2023 08:31

Unless she chose to go into the river at this point.

Many people who take their own life leave processions nearby.

I think this scenario is understandably the elephant in the room and avoiding those thoughts is why it’s easier / more comfortable to speculate on other options.

The police are bound to have considered this possibility.
A person accidentally falling in and drowning would be likely to leave evidence, disturbed grass, mud at the riverside, and possibly the body would stay close to the side.
If someone decided to go in the river, find deeper water and swim as far as possible until they couldn't swim any more there could be less evidence and body harder to locate.

dawngreen · 09/02/2023 08:48

Sorry it was 2019 I think I don't follow their fb info and all the other stuff about them. It just caught my attention because ppl were saying that they had a lot of failed businesses, which had connections to the park. And then they said her parents and her family had rented caravans there. But the person now says that they don't know her. But maybe she is sick of the circus that has arrived in her area.

Guiltycat · 09/02/2023 08:50

RoseMadderAsHell · 09/02/2023 08:46

The police are bound to have considered this possibility.
A person accidentally falling in and drowning would be likely to leave evidence, disturbed grass, mud at the riverside, and possibly the body would stay close to the side.
If someone decided to go in the river, find deeper water and swim as far as possible until they couldn't swim any more there could be less evidence and body harder to locate.

Why would she have bothered to log in to the zoom work call if that was the plan? It wasn’t necessary to make it look like an accident and surely she would have wanted to minimise speculation?

And, as there are photos of her dog playing in that river online, would he really not have followed her out if she’d gone for a swim?

Oaktree55 · 09/02/2023 08:51

Just because it’s not tidal before the weir doesn’t mean there aren’t strong currents particularly given previous rain and fact she had that long ankle length coat on which may have changed how she floated giving enough buoyancy to go over she was very slight!

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2023 08:51

Wheresthebeach · 09/02/2023 08:44

The whole thing is deeply disturbing. The Police seeming to be sure that she was in the river - I'd have thought they would have waited to comment until there was some clarity around what happened rather than speculating that she fell in throwing a ball for the dog. It doesn't seem that they kept all options open with the investigation, rather that they went down one narrow route.

The family bringing in a dive team shows that they don't have confidence in the police investigation.

While people go missing all the time, the details...dog, phone and calls, leaving 2 children all combine to make it both tragic and baffling.

What's concerning about this is that she mentioned the ball in a press conference a whole week after Nicola went missing - does that mean that none of that speculation was discussed with Nicola's family and friends prior to the press conference or that Sally Riley has yet more of the facts wrong?

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