Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 4

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www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066

Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

Peter Faulding said their dinghy got stuck because it was so shallow at one point and had to be dragged up the bank.

And the police think she was carried away by a deep fast flowing river?

Well yes but as is clear from this thread, people are keen to unravel a puzzle, especially one where it seems the police involvement has been less than edifying.

Maybe she committed suicide , left dog and phone and entered the water a lot further down, a couple of miles down. Then got taken along out to sea.

I can’t believe the speed this thread has picked up at over the last few days, yet it’s so sad that there is still no news at all 😔 Now PF has wrapped up his involvement (and concluded she’s in not there), it seems like the search is about to hit a brick wall. I really fear they aren’t going to get answers 😢

The location of that broken/turned off CCTV camera to where she went missing is an unbelievable coincidence

Exactly

If he's used to being brought in by police forces, he probably has more of an insight from them to enable him to do his job.

In this case Lancs Constabulary appear not to have wanted him in the first place despite his better equipment, acted begrudgingly when he did appear, not told him much and not know or care when he finished his search.

He's probably used to being filled in and kept well in the loop of what's going on. He probably thinks they're amateurs particularly considering they didn't search upstream of the bench because they were so convinced it was the definite entry point, and he did it later on.

If her coat did add buoyancy as some have pointed out to me when I suggested it would weigh her down then it’s not that unrealistic to think she could travel c200m on current (however slow) to weir before police searched. Objects just below surface aren’t that visible.

I think this too. All it would take is the person coming along just after half 9 to not spot her in the river then it sounds like it's 10.50 before anyone else comes past? If that's the case that's quite a long time someone could float downstream, even if slowly.

Did anyone else see the dog tied up between 9.30 and when the police arrived ? I am pleased he called the police but I am not sure I would have immediately done that ? Would you assume the worst or go down and collect the dog and look round yourself first .

But as someone recently pointed out on the thread, Peter F said the river was so shallow at one point the dinghy had to be dragged out because it got stuck.

Dinghies are shallow, flat-bottomed craft, there's not that much of them below the water line.

The inconsistencies are just so many:

The phone on the ground still in use
The harness and lead left on the floor
The fact Nicola is a very strong swimmer
The length of time it took for the ‘finder’ to alert anyone ( a staggering 45 minutes) despite knowing Nicola personally
The total lack of other evidence
The dry but distressed dog tied up
The shallow water
The lack of markings consistent with a fall
A broken CCTV that had worked perfectly until 2 days before the disappearance
PF confirming she is ‘not in the river’
Police only searching some areas and not others
A suggestion from expert in the field of third party involvement NOT followed up by the police

It beggars belief that it isn’t a criminal investigation. It is astonishing.

If I knew people that had rented caravans off me I would want to keep on good terms with them. I don't get why she did not call out to her or call her house. I would not tie the dog up with a bit of string when its harness is there, and leave a phone to get broken or messed with.

45 minutes for the ‘finder’ to alert ……long enough to do what ? I think the police should be focusing on this a little more closely

The finder needs to be questioned
The police need to know why the husband immediately called the police rather than going to find her. What happened during that phone call to make him fear the worst. After all I would assume Willow had charged off after a bird or a duck and Nicola had simply dropped her phone. Hardly a police matter. So why did he assume the worst? What was actually said?

I can’t believe we are doing thIs. The police should have investigated all of these threads ages ago.

It beggars belief that it isn’t a criminal investigation. It is astonishing.

Agreed.

So did Nicola have business connections with the ‘finder’? Rented what caravans?

I just think if it was me and I’d walked and seen a dog and a phone next to a bench, my first thought wouldn’t be someone’s fell in the river or been abducted. I’d probably just be a bit confused but expect them to come back to fetch it. It’s easy in hindsight to think OMG somethings happened and it’s time critical that you alert people, but I think it would maybe take half an hour before I’d start thinking there was something dodgy going off

The finder's behavior has surely raised huge red flags with the police. Who ties up a dog and just leaves it there?! Especially when she knew the owner. All very odd.

I think if I found a dog, a lead and harness, and a phone, then I'd be a bit worried.

Just the dog, no, because dogs run off.

But all three and no owner in sight? No, that would warrent me wanting to do more than leave everything and go off elsewhere.

But you know the person on the phone, you know she wouldn’t just leave her phone on the ground and the dog running around alone.

Would you honestly still just leave both the dogs and phone and not alert anybody ?

Too many ifs, what’s and maybes. At some stage let’s hope this mystery starts to unravel. None of it makes sense. The police either really don’t have a clue or they are waiting for the opportunity for some key evidence to show itself. I wonder at what stage it will be deemed the river has been searched as thoroughly as possibly and stop.

Her coat aiding buoyancy is only of relevance when she’s just fallen in. Once a person has drowned the lungs fill with water so they sink. They stay sunk for some time until the balance of gases changes, as they decompose, at which point they can rise and float.

It’s possible she went over the weir but having seen it I think it’s unlikely personally, although I’m no kind of expert. Bodies tend to get stuck on weirs.

"But you know the person on the phone, you know she wouldn’t just leave her phone on the ground and the dog running around alone.

Would you honestly still just leave both the dogs and phone and not alert anybody ?"

She knows who she is. Recognised her. That's different to being friends. You've been going over this point all day. What are you insinuating?

But surely the finder and anyone else "close" have been interviewed by now and the police would have picked up on any odd attitudes, shifty and unconvincing responses?

"Who ties up a dog and just leaves it there?!"

Someone who is sick to death of off lead dogs on that field scaring her livestock.