Missing Woman Nicola Bulley 4

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www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066

Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

Either way, I still think there's zero chance someone would fake their own death and stay in the UK having been highly publicised as missing. Imagine living your life thinking you could have been seen on a camera or by any random member of the public and thats enough to be uncovered. That in itself is totally implausible.

I'm sure you're right. And it's possible she might walk straight back into her life after a few weeks sorting her head out, if that's the case. It is vanishingly unlikely that this has happened, but it still beats examination.

It seems odd the phone was on the ground with all the wet weather we have had. That indicates to me she stood up suddenly in a rush to either to get the dog or trying to escape danger.

I'm getting confused.

If the lead and harness were on the bench, why was string needed to tie up the dog?

What time was the dog tied up, and what time did someone find it loose by the bench/gate?

Also, question for locals - does the kissing gate rest on one particular side? Because I can imagine a dog getting through if pushing it. Less so if it needed pulling. Spaniels are clever dogs, and this one would have been through the gate many times and figured out how it worked

I mean the whole cctv face thing only works when someone is actually searching for a person. So like the couple with baby there is an active man hunt. Here is a women who’s “drowned” they wouldn’t be checking like another poster said London or wherever and when this local force declare lost at sea nobody but her individual family will be actively looking for her. She’s not a spy with mi5 keeping tabs she’s just another random women like me or you.

The lead was attached to the harness. You wouldn't try and attach a harness to someone else's dog.

I carry a spare lead as I’ve found more than one dog wandering around

As in its one whole piece and not a separate lead?

It’s incredibly easy to apply for a warrant in court, but with such media coverage it would certainly elevate the case and speculation would increase, he would need to be a person of interest and a reason to apply for the search. The police would have to accept their widely publicised assumption of drowning is wrong.
I am so uneasy about this case, because nothing stacks up.
Is it a coincidence that the CCTV that could offer crucial evidence is broken just two days before?

The huge delay of the phone discovery and the police arrival is meaningful - and why would anyone wait so long to check she was okay?

There is no evidence at all she has been anywhere near the river.

Why on earth haven’t the police scoured the caravan site, this must be done.

If she had decided to walk closer to the river why didn’t she take her phone? As anyone would. The phone left behind is the strangest part.

I hope they find her.

She may have entered the water, splashed about and managed to get out on the opposite bank. It's about 5 metres wide, if that, at that point so possible.

So the police say they have searched the house but this morning Nicola's friend says they haven't because it's not a crime scene.

Who to believe? The police don't appear to have searched upstream, according to SGI, which SGI have now done, so they do sound like they're working on some pretty basic assumptions.

I think the police have assumed she fell in, treated it as an accident, and just gone through the motions regarding other possibilities.

If there was a sudden emergency with my dog and I was sat on a bench nearby I’d 100% jump up leave my phone. I’ve done similar in past your automatically leave/drop phone if something urgent happened nearby.

You’d like to think an innocent person wouldn’t mind the police having a quick look around for a missing person but you only have to see how much some people hate the fact a ring door bell even points anywhere near them.

Agreed.

I was asking this poster who said:

urbanbuddha · Today 15:05
Wish we could just ask the dog.

The dog was found “in an agitated state” running between the bench and the gate. I read that when the dog was taken back to the field days later she went straight to the gate. I think it’s pretty clear what the dog’s saying.

And surely they can declare it a criminal investigation now and search buildings. They have no evidence she fell in and a thorough search has not found her. Obviously her partner and friends want this.

Yes and to drop and leave the phone suggests to me it was not the dog, you would take the phone with you.

I wouldn't speak to the police if questioned without a lawyer , and I wouldn't let them search my house without a warrant - not sure that makes me suspicious, more sensible.

There is also the issue that she routinely walks the same route for years. I can’t think what would have startled her so much that she dropped her phone, left the harness and lead behind. Surely if there was a problem with the dog you would grab the lead and/or harness.

Yeah I realised that after I said it, when it was pointed out that it would be really easy to locate all criminals. However, where I think the difference is, is that if you're a criminal and you're seen, you move on. The police know you're out there but you just keep it moving.

In a canoe man scenario, if you're seen once the whole thing falls apart as people know you're alive. That in itself is enough of a deterrent against doing it, assuming you've thought the whole thing through logically. It would have been far easier to do that prior to facial recognition software. The Darwin case is about 20 years ago now, but even back then it was a lot simpler - and he basically laid low then left the country, he didn't try and live a life in the UK (until he came back and handed himself in claiming memory loss).

The river search called off. He says she’s not in there

Does anyone know when the next press briefing will be given?

Jeeze. This must be horrendous for the family.

I know we all want her found alive, but next to that...just to have answers. After nearly 2 weeks there are more and more questions.

They haven't given a date/time

I think all those exclamation marks say quite a lot about what she thinks re: the police not searching the house and outbuildings on the opposite bank...

Just the private company I think?

Have they stopped now searching the river?

I'm more willing to believe him than I am the police who didn't get what she was wearing or the name of the road right.