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ofwarren · 2023-02-08T10:28:02+00:00

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/crime/nicola-bulley-day-13-latest-updates-as-search-for-missing-mum-continues-4017066 Lancashire Evening Post has just posted this update.

BesidetheseasideXxx · 08/02/2023 15:02

When I was a little girl, my friends mum disappeared for two weeks on purpose. I remember her going out for private talks with the TA throughout the day in school. The mum had had some sort of breakdown, dropped her children off at school and got on a plane. So I absolutely know that it happens but I don't believe Nicola did anything like that. The dog running loose and phone still logged into a meeting suggests something suddenly happened to her in my opinion.
I think it's the memory of that friend in school which is making me think of Nicola's little girls every day. That and my child is six, same age as her youngest. Just praying they get some awnsers.

pigsinoodies · 08/02/2023 15:02

confounded234 · 08/02/2023 14:55

So if the police weren't called till 10.50 what was happening between 9.33 when the phone was found and when the police arrived? Doesn't the window look a bit bigger than the 10 minutes the police believe? The 10 minutes is all predicated on Nicola putting the phone on the bench herself.

Take that requirement away then the time window suddenly looks much bigger.

I don't see why? She was seen at 0910, her phone was at the bench by 0920 and other people were in the field without seeing her by 0933.

BlueSphere · 08/02/2023 15:03

Below is the video and the comment was at around 38-40s into the video.

Tamarindtree · 08/02/2023 15:03

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727419/Expert-diver-dramatically-ends-river-search-Nicola-Bulley-says-NOT-water.html

The caravan site?

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 15:04

I'm more confused than ever reading Tilly Anne's update!

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LadyOfTheCanyon · 08/02/2023 15:05

SueG60 · 08/02/2023 14:57

@LadyOfTheCanyon

I understand what you're saying, in that you never know whats going on behind closed doors and how people feel. It just seems vanishingly unlikely though.

Even if we assume she wanted to do that, how would you do it. I just don't think its possible in 2023. There are cameras everywhere and facial recognition software. You'd never be able to walk down a street anywhere, particularly as her face has been on the front page of BBC News for 2 weeks. You'd have to leave the country, and that would leave some sort of financial trail behind, you'd need to get a new passport somehow which means you'd have to confide in criminal gangs who'd know who you are and would probably use that to blackmail you knowing what you were doing.

Plus on top, if you were planning on doing it think how nervous you'd be stressing over the details, you'd struggle to not give off any signs to any of your friends or family.

The probability of it is so small it can practically be discounted I think.

You're probably right. But people do do it .

On the thread I referenced, a couple of posters said that yes, they couldn't apply for passports or driving licenses and had had to make their peace with that they would always have to remain in the UK and get cash in hand jobs and the like.

Other people have already said about the ' mum uniform' of puffa coat, jeans, boots etc. I see hundreds of women a day wearing exactly that. I couldn't tell half of them apart. If she's in a major metropolitan area, she just needs to stay out of sight for a month or so and people will have forgotten what she looks like.

I've been following this story for a week now and am not confident I would notice her in the street if she was wearing different clothes/ had dyed or cut her hair. We all like to think we would, but most people are fundamentally unobservant.

lifeturnsonadime · 08/02/2023 15:05

Mirabai · 08/02/2023 15:01

People who have spent time planning to disappear don’t leave in the middle of a dog walk, be sensible.

They might.

They might want people to think that there is no way they would do that and reject the possibility on that basis.

It is unlikely but not impossible.

urbanbuddha · 08/02/2023 15:05

Wish we could just ask the dog.

The dog was found “in an agitated state” running between the bench and the gate. I read that when the dog was taken back to the field days later she went straight to the gate. I think it’s pretty clear what the dog’s saying.

confounded234 · 08/02/2023 15:06

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 15:00

Her friend Tilly Ann has done a public post on Facebook
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0L1aEjWGTUrrcY3XfXSCFtsqqZWk2wyVYYLNFGg5d3YBBdeiyPqo22KCQwYRTyjBal&id=554602984

If those timelines are correct it then this is a massive question mark over the whole investigation. So NOONE called the police or anyone till 10.50? At that point, someone called the school who called Paul who called the police. So the dog was unattended for 70-80 minutes at the bench? When did the police arrive, say another 10-15 minutes.

The 10 minute window is ONLY based on the police theory that Nicola left her phone and the dog at the bench at 9.20. If she didn't, then there's a huge window of opportunity

And I still go back to the question of why no CCTV of Nicola on her walk has been released?

User45378754 · 08/02/2023 15:08

urbanbuddha · 08/02/2023 15:05

Wish we could just ask the dog.

The dog was found “in an agitated state” running between the bench and the gate. I read that when the dog was taken back to the field days later she went straight to the gate. I think it’s pretty clear what the dog’s saying.

I read that when the dog was taken back to the field days later she went straight to the gate. I think it’s pretty clear what the dog’s saying.

Where did you read this? Can you link to the source please?

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 15:09

User45378754 · 08/02/2023 15:08

I read that when the dog was taken back to the field days later she went straight to the gate. I think it’s pretty clear what the dog’s saying.

Where did you read this? Can you link to the source please?

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houselikeashed · 08/02/2023 15:10

The whole dog situation appears odd to me.
I believe the dog was dry when she was found. So willow had not been struggling to get out of the river.
but why/how was her harness off?? As a dog owner I never take the actual harness off when we’re out. What is the significance of that?

LadyHarmby · 08/02/2023 15:10

I don’t know what I think anymore. I was convinced she was in the river but Mr Faulding’s description of the depth, the current and the general layout and conditions make me think they would’ve found her by now. So now I don’t know.

BethFromThisIsUs · 08/02/2023 15:11

is it possible she has crossed the river? What’s on the other side?

LadyHarmby · 08/02/2023 15:11

but why/how was her harness off?? As a dog owner I never take the actual harness off when we’re out. What is the significance of that?

Police have said that it was normal for the dog to have the harness off.

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ofwarren · 08/02/2023 15:12

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0L1aEjWGTUrrcY3XfXSCFtsqqZWk2wyVYYLNFGg5d3YBBdeiyPqo22KCQwYRTyjBal&id=554602984

The update mentioned tied up with string
Why when the lead was there?
Who carries a substantial amount of string too?

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LadyOfTheCanyon · 08/02/2023 15:12

I find it amazing that we are on thread 4 and people are still asking questions that have been covered repeatedly for the last few days!

SueG60 · 08/02/2023 15:13

LadyOfTheCanyon · 08/02/2023 15:05

You're probably right. But people do do it .

On the thread I referenced, a couple of posters said that yes, they couldn't apply for passports or driving licenses and had had to make their peace with that they would always have to remain in the UK and get cash in hand jobs and the like.

Other people have already said about the ' mum uniform' of puffa coat, jeans, boots etc. I see hundreds of women a day wearing exactly that. I couldn't tell half of them apart. If she's in a major metropolitan area, she just needs to stay out of sight for a month or so and people will have forgotten what she looks like.

I've been following this story for a week now and am not confident I would notice her in the street if she was wearing different clothes/ had dyed or cut her hair. We all like to think we would, but most people are fundamentally unobservant.

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I think this is something you could get away with 30-50 years ago, but not now. The tech is so advanced, you'd be surprised how often you'd appear on CCTV in a regular day just going about normal business.

There's currently that couple with the new born baby living off grid who the police want to speak to but can't find, however they keep popping up on CCTV and keep moving around, they haven't just disappeared.

She'd only have to be seen just once and it would rumble the whole thing, its plausible she could have laid low for 2 weeks somewhere but I'm saying in the long run, in the UK the odds of being able to do that long term now are zero.

User45378754 · 08/02/2023 15:13

ofwarren · 08/02/2023 15:09

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0L1aEjWGTUrrcY3XfXSCFtsqqZWk2wyVYYLNFGg5d3YBBdeiyPqo22KCQwYRTyjBal&id=554602984

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That’s not what that FB post says - it says the opposite - that the dog didn’t react - it doesn’t say the dog went straight to the gate.

BethFromThisIsUs · 08/02/2023 15:14

LadyOfTheCanyon · 08/02/2023 15:12

I find it amazing that we are on thread 4 and people are still asking questions that have been covered repeatedly for the last few days!

🤷🏻‍♀️ Some people have jobs and lives and aren’t devoting every waking second to keeping up to speed.

lifeturnsonadime · 08/02/2023 15:14

She'd only have to be seen just once and it would rumble the whole thing, its plausible she could have laid low for 2 weeks somewhere but I'm saying in the long run, in the UK the odds of being able to do that long term now are zero.

You are assuming that the police have the resources to trawl multiple CCTVs indefinitely.

Of course it is possible to go missing.

confounded234 · 08/02/2023 15:15

User45378754 · 08/02/2023 15:13

That’s not what that FB post says - it says the opposite - that the dog didn’t react - it doesn’t say the dog went straight to the gate.

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No when the dog was found it was agitated and running between the bench and the gate at 9.33

The next mention of the dog is when they took it back and it didn't react at all at the bench.

urbanbuddha · 08/02/2023 15:17

@User45378754

In a newspaper or tv report. I haven’t been following the case on social media, other than mn.

SueG60 · 08/02/2023 15:18

lifeturnsonadime · 08/02/2023 15:14

She'd only have to be seen just once and it would rumble the whole thing, its plausible she could have laid low for 2 weeks somewhere but I'm saying in the long run, in the UK the odds of being able to do that long term now are zero.

You are assuming that the police have the resources to trawl multiple CCTVs indefinitely.

Of course it is possible to go missing.

They wouldn't have to trawl through it, artificial intelligence does it for them and would flag it up. I assume thats how they keep managing to find the young couple with the baby in random places all over the country.

LadyHarmby · 08/02/2023 15:18

Not sure the behaviour of the dog is very helpful. They all react differently to things, particularly a situation they’ve presumably not encountered before (owner has suddenly left them).