Archie Battersebee case-thread 2

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ongoing from previous thread

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4573803-archie-battersbee-case?page=40

This is a masterclass in delaying the inevitable.

Poor Archie.

They only had until 2 PM to do so.

@MayThe4th it was extended to Thursday at 2pm. They're now appealing to the Supreme Court to let them approach the UN

God above how much longer is this going to be dawn out?!

Just another day. And another and another and another and another ...

it's so wrong 😔

So it's not really breaking news - in the original CA judgment they chucked out the argument based on a couple of UN conventions, basically on the basis that it had been settled in the Gard case that our best interest law doesn't breach that convention, amongst others. That was covered by the original refusal of permission to appeal, it isn't a new decision.

I'm not too sure how they argue it can go to the Supreme Court in those circumstances, but no doubt we'll find out. Let's hope it's not the subject of another thumbs up video.

I was talking to my son about this case the other day. He's 14 and he said at 12 you would know what happens when you puts something around your neck. He basically told me if he ever ended up like that switch him off and don't take pictures of him. My older daughter agreed saying if he was to wake up his life won't be worth living having dr

Sorry stupid phone. Brain damage
I can completely understand the mother she doesn't want to lose her child.
Its a awful situation to be in.

Sal

Please god he needs to have a cardiac arrest so this can be over.

I can completely understand the mother she doesn't want to lose her child. initially I agree. But all the pictures over social media, the fact she has even acknowledged he cannot survive even if she hasn’t acknowledge that he’s already dead, and dragging this out day after day it’s very difficult to have sympathy for her. Sympathy for her loss, absolutely. But sympathy for the way she’s behaving while being egged on by the army or whatever the hell they are, nope.

I'm guessing the Breathing Videoes have been thrown out as evidence ?
If she goes to the ECHR she'll say what ? It's Archies right to be maintained on Support indefinately ?
Because of a conversation with his brother that he'd want this and would never leave his Mother ? Can she really put that as an arguement
His deep religious beliefs (though not baptised ) ?

She should take this time to be with her son and shut down all the SM . Be with Archie not GMTV

I know we need avenues for appeals and I would want the same if I felt I'd been dealt an injustice... but I really wish there was a way to fast track these cases through the appropriate courts. Like really fast track. Archie isn't in pain but that isn't always true (e.g. Charlie Gard) and they have to suffer for months on end.

I don't think they've been considered yet. On Monday it sounded like they were intending to go back to take that up in the High Court, presumably an application for a stay of their order because the circumstances had changed.

This is being fast-tracked - you'd never get from the High Court to the Court of Appeal within around 10 days normally. They can be quicker than that (as happened, for instance, with the Rwanda cases) but there has to be a balance in terms of giving the parties time to prepare.

I know, that's why I said REALLY fast-tracked. 10 days is an eternity for someone in that much pain. But I understand why it doesn't happen.

There is a Sky news report on line from an hour ago that says they have been blocked from going to the UN and given another 24 hours.

But doesn't sound right (the UN I mean), possibly a reporter getting hold of the wrong end of the stick and not checking

Leah Betts, I think took ecstasy in a night club? Her parents launched a campaign using a picture of her on life support. Desperately sad story and sadder still that 30 years later its still happening

I didn't even realise they were going to the UN. Actually I didn't even realise that was something you could do

What can the UN do about this sad situation?

anyone catch the interview with eamon holmes,
he is totally egging her on, really bad interview

That is exactly what I thought when I watched it. Terrible interview.

Eamon holmes is a toad of a man.

eamon holmes is awful at the trivial stuff let alone serious interviews

does anyone know why theyre allowed an extension

if they got to appeal that wo9uld be changing the law wouldnt it base don anyone on life supprt

Leah betts was from my town her dm showed the pic to show what would happen if you took ecstasy-they closed the nightclub down shortly after where she got it was well known for drug pushing

I suspect you can't, but it may be something dreamt up by CLC to buy more time.

Presumably though there is going to come a point where all avenues are exhausted and the dr’s will just remove the life support. How is that kind of thing possibly managed? Obviously in an ideal world the parents would be there, but presumably they won’t wait for the parents t be there otherwise they just wouldn’t turn up so as to stall further.