Jordan on cover of Cosmo. What does that say about today's role models...

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...for young women?

Apparently she's earned £30 million through TV, books, etc.

Aren't there three or four footballers in a greasy spoon for a bookies ad? and don't a lot of footie players (I know gareth southgate did) advertise for pizza hut?
Similar to the gary lineker thing I would've thought, I'd nver thought of it that way before though.

If Linneker is the talk of internet forums the way Jordan is, I'd be very surprised, Bundle.

Jordan is criticised just for being who she is, whereas Linneker was criticised for doing that one thing. Linneker certainly isn't subject to the perennial handwringing and sniping that Jordan gets.

Did Alan Davies get the same level of opprobrium for attacking a homeless man that Jordan is getting here simply for appearing on a magazine cover? I'm sure plenty of teenage boys admire his wit and fancy themselves getting some of what he has. Isn't he setting them a bad example doing what he did? After all violence against another person is a lot worse than getting a boob job or appearing in magazines. Particularly as he's been quoted as thinking it was funny.

Linneker was publically criticised for his actions and I bet it affected his public standing, at least in the short term. Nothing seems to affect Jordan, she's a real teflon woman.

I don't think what Alan Davies did was funny at all. I think it was treated that way by some of the press because it was a homeless person who was the victim, which is shameful.

she is an airbrushed vacant plastic titted bubble head.She is famous because she sells herself and every aspect of her life . She has taken a man's stereotype of an ideal sexy woman and extended it. She has chosen to perpetuate it.She sells her children. She sells her body. She is a whore and has put her children on the media game - they are too young to resist. The only people she has 'empowered' are the men who wank over her photos and think unless you look like her you are a waste of space. Great role model.

donnie, she is not a whore.

Being an alcoholic is an illness and not many alcoholics sell their lives as something to aspire to so that analogy is rubbish.She adds bits on to herself and cuts other bits off but hey she's made money and has 'dun alright for erself' so we should all sal;ute her

no, she's not a whore

donnie!

so we should 'salute' anyone who has made a load of cash? oh really?

no saluting, no whores

why is having Jordan on the cover of cosmo worse than having,say, Kate Moss?

It's one of the reasons why the media like to use her because the sexist hatred of her generates just about as much interest in her as people liking her.

Horrible thing to call her a wh*re when you think that she was abused as a young girl and it's pretty obvious that that has had some kind of effect on her choice of career.

On the other hand the men who pay to look at pics of Jordan's breasts never get criticised, neither do the men who own or run rags like the Sun or the Star which encourage young women to aspire to this kind of behaviour. They are a lot more to blame than anyone like Jordan. If it wasn't her some other young woman would have stepped up to fill her place.

don't get me started on Moss....

i was being sarcastic!

Elizabetth, on this thread, I'm with you completely.

elizabeth, of course they get criticised, on here and elsewhere (richard desmond et al) but it's even more odd imo that a woman would choose to perpetuate this portrayal of her gender.

well people may find my choice of words unpalatable but I stand by what I say. She has constructed her fame and fortune out of selling her tits and her body. She sells every aspect of her children's lives which I find really despicable - every little aspect of it.All for cash.That makes her a whore IMO.

I think Jordan's attitude to her own body/breasts, wrt the most basic of human behaviours ie breastfeeding, shows how screwed up her feelings about being a woman are.

Selling magazines with pictures of her breasts = ok

Feeding her own newborn baby = weird

That isn't her fault! Jeez, there are tons of people out there tht say that, it's PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

Bundle, I have never ever seen Richard Desmond criticised for being a poor role model for men and boys although I'm sure quite a few of them would like to aspire to a career like his.

Men don't worry about role models because they are allowed such a wide variety of them. Women on the other hand have to be happy with fewer (because the media makes it that way), and even then the criticism of them is sky high. Why would a woman want to go into public life when there are gangs of people lining up to call them "wh*res" (in Jordan's case) or going to the other end of the spectrum, have constant jokes made about their looks, for example in the case of Anne Widdecombe.

I'm a lot more offended by the sexism directed at Jordan and other high profile women than I am at their behaviour.

a career like his? really? I've never heard any of the kids I know say they'd like to be a porn baron.

wow are we bored ith urika so bashing Jordan now.

I'm bashing Desmond

The point is that some boys will see what he does as an option for them and some of them will follow him into that business. For someone more high-profile though how about Hugh Hefner? He's a big hero amongst the teenage boy set and hip twenty-something males. They'd all love a trip to the Playboy mansion. I don't think I've ever seen anybody up in arms about him being a poor role model.

Meanwhile playboy logoed merchandise is sold to tweenage girls in WH Smiths and Argos. Horrible.

agree re: playboy stuff it's vile

but some children will even look up to gangsters/drug dealers - it's our (society's, especially women as often the primary carers for children) duty to provide positive and worthwhile role models for our children and other people's children.

my children already know that daddy won't have anything by "that Mr Murdoch" in the house because he's a bully and we don't like the way he does things. simple.