Jordan on cover of Cosmo. What does that say about today's role models...

[BrummieOnTheRun]

...for young women?

Apparently she's earned £30 million through TV, books, etc.

go 100x

go kitty

Anyway, why are WE being so pathetic about this. We are the women of our generation, we lead the way.

If my dd said to me 'I so admire Jordan' [splutter] - well she wouldn't now, but say she did when she's 12 - then I say 'Why? She's an idiot.' And so on.

If we don't like it and think its crap, we tell our daughters that it is and expect them to do differently.Then we show by example.

[exhausted]

Go enid.

yes I think I have already told dd1 that I think various people are idiots

and that watching Super Mario Bros on Boomerang will rot your brain

i agree with piffle

cosmo hasnt been feminist for donkeys years, so regardless what anyone thinks of jordan, it's a bloody glamour mag

its all about lip gloss and blow jobs

no one "blames" jordan but i feel a responsibility as a woman to set a positive example for my daughters, free of all the sexist and life-choices-limiting crap that our mothers had to (and some still do) put up with

(and I honestly despair at people like jordan who don't choose to do that, esp when they have daughters)

Go Enid and 100times (ooh, we sound like we are on Ricki Lake!!)

I kind of have the same version of this rant every week, directed at my poor 12 year old dd, usually inspired by Kerry Katona/Danielle Lloyd/Jordan/Paris Hilton et al on the front of magazines.

This kind of anti-feminist sexism seems to be a pretty new thing (unless I am comnpletely mad and blind) - when I was younger it was either women=sexual playthings and out-and-out blatant sexism, or the opposite. Now we have the confusion of absolute sexual submissiveness (being a wag, sex tapes, soft porn celebdom etc etc ad infinitum) being portrayed as strong modern womanhood

As a mother of a near teenage girl I find that really depressing.

I'm sure in my late teens, Cosmo was quite empowering (for a teen mag). It was ballsy with lots of emphasis on career...as well as all the sex! Okay, it was mainly sex! Anyway, this obsession with sleb culture is shared by almost all the media aimed at women these days.

I can't work out what the root of all this sleb shit is. Probably because I don't understand why people are interested in it. Is it an interest in what you can do if you have massive wealth, and how it still doesn't shelter you from misfortune? Or is it just laziness: seen as an easy way to make a buck because work doesn't pay like it did in the 'olden days'?!

Has education been devalued because a degree doesn't get you a mortgage?

From what I can remmeber of Jordans books, she was abused by a family friend as a child, which she partly attributes as to why she mad eher money the way she did. Now she has met Peter, she keeps her clothes on, and has found happiness, I'm happy for her.
As for topless modelling, my 7yo DD already thinks that women getting their boobs out on mags are silly and insecure with themselves. I doubt very much she'll grow up to be splashing hers out in the sun, her thinking Katie Prices' weddding was the most beautiful thing int he world isn't going to change that.

strong modern womanhood my arse

give me emmeline pankhurst and mary robinson any day

59 messages and no-one's come along yet to say that those who don't view Jordan as a feminist icon are jealous of her tits - maybe it's not groundhog day after all!

there's time yet, turquoise

oooh dunno about ellen mcarther either?

She pimps herself at corporate do's. Sorry, gives "inspirational talks".

It's all a big pile of poo pants kaka

Inspirational female role models?

That's a real thinker.

J K Rowling?

Nigella Lawson

""Now she has met Peter, she keeps her clothes on,", and sells her children instead.

Maybe in her eyes she is helping awareness?? We don't know what goes on in her head, but I doubt it's malicious.

there are far worse women out there for our dd's to aspire to be like though. i would certainly, given the choice have my dd aspire to be katie price than paris hilton or victoria beckham. but thats just imho.

shes truthful, honest and tell's it like it is. other celebs are decitful and lie about things that are obvious to the outside world and their images are more damaging to my dd than ones of katie price.

I felt like crying when my 14 yr old cousin said she wanted to be exactly like Jordan when she 'leaves school and goes out into the world'. She is a lively, intelligent, academically able girl from a supportive, loving family. You'd think she'd have some better role model? But no.

I don't personally dislike Jordan. I think she comes across as quite a sweet, witty, ballsy girl. However, nothing anybody could ever say to me could convince me that 'glamour modelling' / reality TV is a worthwhile career (and definitely NOT a 'feminist' choice). The culture of celebrity is grotesque, and it really does make me want to weep (no exageration) to think that so many bright young women aspire to this vacuous, meaningless crap.

That's aprt of her problem, she is too honest. People talk crap about her all te time and she tries to set them straight by telling it 'her way'. Which just makes people get fed up of hearing about her.

angela davis

oops

meant to say, angela davis was one of my role models