Jordan on cover of Cosmo. What does that say about today's role models...

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...for young women?

Apparently she's earned £30 million through TV, books, etc.

The fact that there are worse women for my daughters to find inspirational is entirely beside the point.

Having said that, I very much doubt my girls know who Jordan is. Elisabeth Elliot is more our sort of female hero.

mulledjanitor - lol! Not as a child, as a teen!

As a child, I think my role model was probably Wonder Woman, I remember spinning meself silly in the back garden.

I don't think she deserves any respect after this - using her newborn baby to promote formua, in contravention of the rules against marketing formula for newborns.

Quote from Jordan: "I don?t want a baby drinking from me. The thought of it makes me feel really funny. I think only a certain person could handle my knockers."

It is not liberated to make money as wank fodder. it's prostitution by proxy. it encourages the objectification and degredation of our whole sex. so she's made a lot of money for herself. so what? there are many dubious ways to make a lot of money for yourself in this world. What about the many many women who make not much money in careers thta benefit society, and work damn hard to try to improve the world in some small way? they should be on the cover of Cosmo. Not her.

melpomene, I agree what she did with the SMA ws not particularly clever, but I doubt she has any idea about breastfeeding or the laws around formula etcetc. IMO it's the people who put the idea to her in the first place. She is honest as someone said earlier and was probably manipulated by being given free milk!

If Isabella Oliver gaveme free clothes to wear throughout my pregnancy and I said "It's brilliant. I don't have to go shopping or anything, I don't care what people say - you don't have to stop looking good when pregnant' then it wouldn't be a problem.
The real issue with the SMA adverts were with the people who orchestrated it and OK mag for running with it.

As for her comment about breastfeeding, that's the way other people have made her feel. It's a sad situation we are in but many new mums feel that way. She isn't the first to say it nor will she be the last.

Hear hear yummers.

See plenty of role models every day. Those women worked hard to get a good education, maneged to get a good job without sleeping their way to the top, juggle frantic parenthood/jobs/life/madness without compromising theirselves.

And then we get completely unrealistic lives as portrayed in the media, which our kids see and sometimes to aspire to, without being able to see how completely fabricated and/or demoralising those lives really are.

This celebrity life is completely taking over rational thinking. It completely astounds me that various celebrities think it is completely fine to parade thier children about the media (Kerry Katona/Jordan et al). Then there is a blurred line which the media can easily cross, resulting in a nationally distrubuted sticker mocking a special needs child (Jordan's son). Isn't she culpable for this in effectively selling her son's image? And where the hell will it stop?

(bloody hell Kitty ramble ramble )

Kittylouise, do you really think heat publishing a sticker of Harvey saying 'Harvey wants to eat me' was 'crossing a blurred line'??

I thought David Beckham made an interesting point () on Parky - he said that the inevitable first question from all the children he meets now is not about the football, but "how much money do you make?"

I really can't imagine children of previous generations thinking about money when meeting the captain of the England team, or similarly - thinking it's absolutely fine to be wank material for the dirty mac brigade, so long as you make millions. Depressing.

I guess none of this matters unless it's having an adverse effect on young women.

Is it...other than the obvious point that they could be reading something of intellectually value instead?

I am sitting on my hands as this topic has got me in trouble before but spider and enid I'm with oyu both!

Tiny Tim - what I meant was that there is already, in the media's eyes, a 'blurred line' of what is acceptable to publish and what is not, caused mainly by the publicising of children by their parents in order to sell magazines.

I, of course, do not agree with that horrible sticker - I hoped that this had come across in my post. And of course Heat magazine was wrong, wrong, wrong. This is what I mean about the distortion of morality which enables this kind of thing to take place, I slow erosion of what is constituted as reasonable behaviour.

is she really has made 30million can you blame young people from wanting some of the same?

for the record, my 14 year old son thinks jordan is pretty sad.

If my Dd grew up and said she wanted to be like Jordan I'd like to think I could explain to her how Jordan became what she was, her books say enough about how unhappy she was, and explain that as soon as she could she decided to keep her clothes on, so maybe her career choice wasn't so wonderful at all?

I think young people are being sold a lie.She is always talking about how insecure and miserable she is with her body and thinks her dh will cheat blah blah money hasn't brought her happiness but she never says that just keeps flaunting herself and her 'stuff'.Couldn't resist sorry

i think shes great i think shes the one laughing all the way to the bank

why does everyone think that because she has her finances sorted she is somehow a success?

I don't mind Jordan at all. (Though I hate her chat show with Pete)

She works hard, is very sucessful in her field, is happily married and a mum to 3 kids, 1 of which has disabilities and she is a great ambassador for many charities concerning Harvey's ilness. I think she is very genuine and tells it like it is.

She has made her millions by doing something that some women find repulsive and that's why some women don't like her.

She's not an alcoholic and she's not a druggy. There are far worse role models in the public eye imo.

What Dr,Northerner said.

But I don't agree with the way she puts her children in the public eye - just to increase her own publicity. They are all on the front cover of OK or Hello this month, and the children are not old enough to have a choice in this. Most other celebrities do not market their children like this - it can't be good for them.

Most otehr celebs don't market their kids like this???
WTF, every time hello or ok is on the shelves they have someones kid on the front.
So you wouldn't do it, fine, but she may just be showing off her beautiful kids.
Angelina Joile and Brad Pitt are always on mags with their brood, or is that ok cos they're adopted?

(by that i mean they suppsoedly did a good thing by adopting them so that makes them 'good people', not that it's ok if you don't give birth to them!)

I think the idea that somehow she's a role model is sexist in itself. It only ever seems to be women that people get worried about setting a bad example. There's plenty of unpleasant male celebrities who could get accused of being bad role models but they never do.

At least she doesn't go around biting homeless men's ears for example.

actually Elizabeth, I seem to remember that Gary Linneker got slagged off for advertising Walker's crisps when he was supposed to be a role model for young aspiring footballers/healthy eating etc.

True, Elizabetth, who are the male 'role models' plastered across the mags lately, I have no idea.