Mother can keep birth a secret

[MamaMaiasaura]

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7109774.stm what do you think about this?

You can't have a 'right' that is not enforceable. And the 'right' to know who your father is is not enforceable. You only know the answer to that question if your mother tells you or places it on record (and even then, only if she's honest..)

well, people are prepared for failures of birth control: the morning after pill, termination, placing the child for adoption, single parenthood.

I can understand that piffle but in this case the child is a result of a one nights stand so why should she protect the baby?
I take your point about the court taking all this into consideration.
Out of interest a friend of mine got a note through his door saying he had an 18 yr old daughter as a result of a brief relationship before he was married, he felt he could not contact the daughter as it would have probably split his marriage up even though this was before they first got together albeit by a few weeks

What I said regarding a man's finacial obligation is that I believe that as long as a woman is able to have an abortion an man should have the right to cut his strings to.

I'm sorry, I'm all for people having sex and enjoying themselves, lord knows I had good times myself, but I was always aware of what could happen and was always willing to accept my responsiblitys. I don't think people being overly promiscuous is something to pat people on the back for.

Pastilla, you are dead right. SS being far too officious. None of their damn business to approach her family (especially as she's an adult) or demand the father's details. As the court of appeal ruled. SS, however, 'mistakenly' told her family. Whoever is responsible for that bit of trouble-making should be disciplined.

You are implying that not wanting to procreate with someone with whom you have sexual relations, is "overly promiscuous".

Quite a strange assumption.

who said anything about admiring promiscuity?

termination and adoption are perfectly responsible decisions to make to most, however, paula.

why all this shame around having sex as somehow being 'overly promiscuous'?

why is having sex with lots of partners immoral?

i'm afraid i just don't see how that makes one an immoral person.

And what's the definition of "overly promiscuous"? And is there such a thing as being "underly promiscuous"?

i'm getting a bit perturbed at the SS's apparent ability to act as an autonomous law unto itself .

i hope this woman sues the hell out of them, tbh.

Oh, I see, it's one of those 'morality runs by my rules' situations. I have a good time, you are promiscuous...

quite, expat.

I don't think having sex is Immoral. I think not taking responsibility for a pregnancy or not giving a father the rights to his child is immoral.

i've been underly promiscuous for a long while now......

Don't you mean you think not being a doormat for whatever men want is immoral, Paula?

biggit. we have no idea what happened on that 'one night stand'

i had a 'one night stand' when i was 16. at least, thats what i told everyone. i was actually raped. not date rape per se as we werent on a date, but thats irrelevent.

fact is, id protect any resulting child from his identity too. or rather, id fight tooth and nail to protect another girl/wamns right to do the same. unfortunately i wasnt able to fight for myself back then.

i realise, that you bgd, and and men ppb has been involved with, are NOTHING like the bloke who did that, and that your feelings should rightly be somewhat more considered if this situation were about any of you. HOWEVER not all men are great. not all men are fathers, not all men even want to be. and im pretty sure, if she gave this kid up altogether, she did it in the kids own best interests.

You still haven't explained why not wanting to have children with every single man you go to bed with, is by definition promiscuous.

ppb didn't say we should only have sex with people with whom we want to have babies. she was making the point that when we shag we take a risk that a pregnancy might be the outcome. and it is very often a risk we voluntarily take. ok so few situations are cut and dried but I do think there is a principal there - for men and women. none of which makes me think men should have a say over abortions. but I do believe in responsibility for our actions.

who is not taking responsibility for the pregnancy? the woman is taking responsibility by choosing to carry the baby to term and then give baby up for adoption.....

No I think their should be equality. I think descions regarding a pregnancy shoul be made by both the father and the mother.

she did take responsibly for the pregnancy! she planned to put her up for adoption until the SS decided to impose its draconian version of human rights on her and her privacy.

.....okaaaaay (patient tone)...... and if they dont agree paula? does the man get a court order telling the woman she must have the baby?

'I think descions regarding a pregnancy shoul be made by both the father and the mother. '

and what if they disagree? whose rights are paramount? logically, the one whose body and health are therefore affected.

Don't you think the guy should be sticking around for nine months then Paula? You don't seem to have anything to say about the father in this case who was obviously quite happy to shag and then disappear.

So you would give men rights over women's bodies when they're pregnant Paula?