Mother can keep birth a secret

[MamaMaiasaura]

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7109774.stm what do you think about this?

why didn't she just say she didn't know who the hell he was?

LOL at life being not fair

Men are usually quite pleased about that. Particularly the bit about not having an equal opportunity to go through pregnancy and labour. Not many of them are spending years fretting about the unfairness of it all.

she will next time!
poor girl.
why all this outrage / "families need fathers" style propoganda?
there is no "family" here, there was no relationship between these people.

.... and meant to say, are there really people on here, WOMEN on here, who think men should have a right to veto a woman's decision to terminate a pregnancy????

I feel that way. Imagine how horrifyed and up in arms you would all be if a woman was forced to have a termination, yet you think nothing of how awful it must be for a man to lose his child and not have a say in the matter. If they don't have the right to veto an abortion they should at least have the right to terminate their parental rights just like a mother does.

The two are not comparable - pregnancy is about a woman's body, not a man's.

That is such a misandrist attitude. Its still his baby

i dont get what you mean?
many many men never seek to acquire or exercise parental responsibility for their children..... and no one can force them too have contact / be involved in decision making about them if they don't want to.... the obligation to support children financially is a different issue, arising from the bare fact of your biological relationship and is separate from that of being involved in the actual parenting of a child...... or do you think men should be able to opt out of finacially supporting their children?
(in practice many men simply dont pay..... and many women never seek payment / dont name the father to the csa etc)

this father has no parental rights to choose to terminate by consenting to adoption. that is the point.

i find a state in which any person has dominion over another's body and the medical decisions they make about it utterly chilling.

i totally agree with edam.

pregnancy is about a woman's body, which is more than just her womb as an incubator.

Oh, pur-lease! No, it is a. pragmatic - women get pregnant, men don't, simple biology and b. based on human rights. Otherwise we may as well be living under the Taliban. Each individual human being has the right to control their own body. That means a pregnant woman has the right to decide what happens to that pregnancy. Full stop.

Why should they have to be finacially supportive of children they don't want.

Hang on, Paula, a minute ago you were arguing men have a right to decide whether unborn babies are aborted, now you are saying they shouldn't have any responsibility for actual real live babies... you can't hold both those positions simultaneously!

if they didnt want a child then they should have thought about the consequences of having sex (or have got sterilised before doing so). one well known consequence of sex is pregnancy

I do actually. I personallydon't believe in abortion. I do feel men who have their babies terminated and I think that they should have a say. However thats not the case. All I'm saying is that if women have the right to opt out of being a parent both biologically and finacially then I see no reason why men should not have the same options

oh paula my sweet, they already do.

Ask the huge percentage of lone parents who never get a penny in maintenance.

are you a man?

men have a say in abortions?? an actual legal say?? are you nuts??

I meant legally and no I'm not a man

Women have the right to opt out because it involves their bodies.

Pregnancy and fatherhood do not involve men's bodies. If it did, they could opt out, by definition. (If a baby wouldn't develop in the womb for example, without hearing its father's voice at least once a day, then men would have a very important part in pregnancy.

But Mother Nature is such an old misandrist.

You do know that men can't get pregnant, don't you, Paula? Because you seem to be wilfully ignoring the fact that this is fundamentally about womens' bodies...

Yes I get how it works thanks. I don't see what diffrence that makes.

the laughable thing is, the emount of time and energy that has always been spent on trying to get men to take responsibility when they all know they can walk away anytime if they so choose, and frequently do.

responsible loving men with morals are different.

one shitty one night stand with someone who hasnt raised their hand in all this time does not parental rights make.

Um, well the potential baby is growing in the lady's tummy...

my issue is with the baby, how will ever know who its father is if she does not say and she dies before she tell the baby. As I understood the baby was going to be adopted and so when it gets to 28 it has the right to contact it parents.

The article says that she has never approached the father. How does he know its his?