British Soldier F gets away with murder.

[AnyName1]

I know little is taught in British schools about the north of Ireland, so wondered if people were aware of this shocking case.

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"Soldier F also known as ‘Dave’ will not now face criminal charges for the murder of innocent civilians in Derry on Bloody Sunday, 30 January 1972. This is because the statement he made after the Bloody Sunday massacre was not taken by the RUC, but rather by the Royal Military Police. These statements have been deemed inadmissable as evidence. Since this was standard procedure at the time, it probably means that no soldiers will be prosecuted for murder in Northern Ireland.

The policy of excluding the RUC from the investigation of killings caused by British solidiers came into existence after Brigadier Frank Kitson took over in Belfast.

Earlier this year Judge James O’Hara presided over the trial of two paratroopers accused of shooting Official IRA volunteer, Joe McCann. He was shot while he ran away from the soldiers. After the trial collapsed, the judge pointed out that:

At that time, in fact until late 1973, an understanding was in place between the RUC and the Army whereby the RUC did not arrest and question, or even take witness statements from, soldiers involved in shootings such as this one. This appalling practice was designed, at least in part, to protect soldiers from being prosecuted and in very large measure it succeeded."

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

He shot an unarmed child in the face.

How many civilians did IRA soldiers murder?

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

Should we be applying that to Iraq? Afghanistan? I seem to remember some justifiable prosecutions.

Not that countries were at war in this case. He shot an unarmed British subject engaged in peaceful protest.

How many girls were kneecapped, how many women were tarred and feathered. How many civilians were murdered by the IRA in their fight for freedom.?

This has nothing to do with the IRA. A British soldier shot a child at a civil rights march.

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted
Awful sentiment which would green light the most heinous war crimes.

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted.

What rot. Soldiers must be prosecuted for illegal actions. Which countries do you think were at war?

The British government will never allow a soldier to be prosecuted or even go to trial because it opens up every other atrocity in their name to be open to questioning. The 70s and 80s attitude was 'all paddy's are paddys' . That applies to innocent civilians in over 100 countries murdered by a uniform either because they were trained to be indifferent to life or they received direct orders from a higher up to kill. It's disgusting but I'm unfortunately not surprised. It's sick and wrong.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

Countries were not at war. UL troops fired on subjects/citizens of the UK in their own place.

There is no such thing as "IRA soldiers" . Although the IRA thought they were soldiers and would be heartened by you calling them so

The ignorance of your post is astounding. Try actually reading about what happened.

Oh yeah, all the BUT THE IRA - the IRA were not the government. The UK was. It used its army to fire on its own citizens.

Why would you hold the British army to the same standards of conduct as an illegal terrorist organisation? don’t we expect a slightly higher standard from the British army?

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

oh an have you ever heard of the Geneva Convention??

Such ignorance and yet you think you can comment.

Ok, I get the sentiment of this post. No more comments from me.

I wonder how long this thread will last. Because the anti Irish are out(but that's not bad) but statements of fact can be a bit 'ooooh not in the spirit'. Let's all stick to facts and not whataboutery shall we?

The ignorance of your post is astounding.

It’s always the way on these threads. People who haven’t the first clue shouting tired old rhetoric they heard their dad/mates say and never took a second to think about it.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

I agree. That child shouldn't have even there.

You are missing out the story of soldiers who drove the wrong way that day. Tried to get out of the area , and one in particular was chased down and killed.

I remember as a child in the 80s /early 90s seeing the Massacre caused by the IRA. They could not care less about killing children.

No idea why they're trying to make moral claims. Plenty of ppl in NI will tell you what the IRA still does ,despite it not making mainstream news.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

Thankfully this isn’t how international law works.

And your next sentence makes even less sense. Either you think soldiers should be prosecuted or you don’t. Totally illogical to say they shouldn’t be under any circumstances, then that they should if the numbers balance.

I’d be embarrassed to have posted something so stupid.

@Fuckingcrustybread

Ok, I get the sentiment of this post. No more comments from me.

Thank Christ for that.

A civil rights march. Like our kids go to today.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

Unarmed CHILD in the FACE. Think about that and decide if you want to continue defending that thing I hesitate to call person.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

Have you literally never heard of war crimes

So many people can't face their history.

@Fuckingcrustybread

When countries are at war no soldiers should be prosecuted. I'll support prosecution of all British soldiers when all IRA soldiers are equally prosecuted.

About 800. Loyalist paramilitaries about 1100. Terrible times. Unjustifiable atrocities.

Loyalist paramilitaries would be the group you'd expect to see treated the same as IRA terrorists now - not British security forces.

There's no question here of prosecuting British soldiers for defending themselves - that's never been on the cards. UK government has admitted freely that that wasn't the case here.

It’s sad but not at all surprising. They don’t want to open a floodgate whereby they will be responsible for their actions.

You are missing out the story of soldiers who drove the wrong way that day. Tried to get out of the area , and one in particular was chased down and killed.

Utterly clueless Torvean. The incident you’re half remembering happened in 1988, SIXTEEN YEARS after Bloody Sunday.