Am sorry to say this but.....Maddie's full DNA has been found in the hire car.

[Jezebeltheharlot]

tis on SKY news now.......

snatches a leek and starts munching.
i agree actually. sad and worrying.

remember the woman whose baby got taken by a dingo a few years back. They said it must have been her because there was blood dna in her car, and she went to jail. Then some time after they found her babies matinee jacket in a dingo's lair and had to let her go and pay her shed loads of compensation.

Thank god she got out, but how many others don't (think Meadows and bloody Munchausen by Proxy bollocks)

how many of us are nervous going to the doctors with our children in case we're considered to be wsting their time etc?

Is feminism in need of a dust off?

isn't it, though? and it could be any one of us being vilified... particularly the women come in for it. terrible.

I was here before and will still be here after.

Oh great

and the reason she went down was because she didn't cry enough, she was too composed, too cold. just like people are saying about the mother in this instance. it is very worrying. people say 'oh well, it's often the parents', but past form is meaningless when you are talking about a distinct set of individuals in every case.

mb is this important enough?

CC I've been here 6 years so bog off.

Discussing the day's current affairs I'm sure MR

give MB a break, lil. she's trying to deal with a lot right now, her husband is really not well at all. i think she just missed a post, is all.

What ticks me off is the nonsense about 'oh well, they invited the attention in, they can't have privacy now', like they were bloody Jordan and Peter Andre. FFS.

lol sueb.

argh. must....not...get..dragged..in..

There is certainly a stereotypical "woman in distress" and it isn't just the media that demands you fit. I'm thinking of the woman inthe 'vicarage rape' case. "Her suffering was no so great"

tis no good fighting it Sue. I had a serious addiction years ago, so went cold turkey. Popped my head back in a few months ago and was sucked in like a vacuum claner. keep trying to run for the door but everyones so damn interesting..even the spats! help!

annie who said her sufferings not so great???

The judge sentencing her rapist.

The McCanns had no chance of getting out this unscathed. Our media do this all time, they build people up and then delight in bringing them down

I haven't bought newspapers since Diana died, I hated them then and I hate them now

It's despicable, that in one week, they have turned and now want to crucify these people

Women are always in the wrong it would seem, too cold, too emotional, too lax, too strict, working is wrong/right depends on the day, too skinny/too fat and on it goes

good job we are the stronger sex, huh {grin}

oh god yes, i'd forgotten about that vicarage case. poor woman.

Oh yes indeed. Women in the frame all the time. Even this whole saga involving mumsnet threads - it's getting picked up by the media because it a juicy catfight. It's like a frigging cyber version of mud-wrestling and it's as grim as dirty fingernails.

See, I think we like to blame the media. But I think it is more than that. I think it is cultural.

There have been mutterings on here since the start of this case about haircuts and clothes and what have you - at a time when the media were really very supportive.

I think it's a prevailing stereotype. I caught myself thinking "she's put a ribbon in her hair" before I realised what I was doing .

yes its like all articles about female politicians start with describing what she was wearing. really irritating.

I don't think it's as simple as a nice neat line between culture and the media, though. And I wouldn't like to put my toes on the line to say which reflects which, either.

Which is just to say that I agree, there is something very deeply ingrained that scrutinizes and stereotypes women in certain situations, especially when it involves children or sex. Virgin and whore, and all that malarkey.

i think women do enjoy bringing women down though sometimes. Bitchyness does seem to be a female (and gay man) trait

The politician thing really gets on my goat....so an so has just won the most wonderful piece of legislation or had the best idea.....she was wearing..... ugh you cares, we don't talk about the mens goerge at asda suits!!

I really hate the gossips mags....ooh look strong alpha women in no make up.. how ugly, how not organised, what a slob!! double ugh

Damn, yes. Me mother always used to say, boys have a punch up and then go and play football together, but girls like to bitch for aaages.

But then, I suppose I'm just adding to that now by posting here.

Sky news is reporting that the prosecuter in the case is seeking an emergency order to seize a mystery object. Sky are speculating it could be the church where the McCanns prayed and had keys to.

I am sorry but this is getting more and more far fetched. Do the Portugese police seriously believe the McCanns could be so deranged as use a church with the media camped outside?