Terrorists losing British Citizenship

[hellenbackagen]

Why is this news? Stripping terrorists of citizenship?

Surely the day a person decides they are happy to kill or maim their citizens in the name of terrorism they have lost their right to stake a claim to that citizenship?

This isn't a loss of their human rights. They forgo that when they choose to rob others of their human rights surely?

Fuck off and be a citizen of the people you support.

sadly it doesn't work that way.!

I work in the criminal justice system.

I feel safer with him not here in any capacity. He won't "rot in prison" here

This week I got an email about a prison release.

Man who committed 2 rapes. One when he was in his teens against an OAP.
Second when his probation worker annoyed him so his answer was to walk into a cathedral and raped a volunteer who worked there.

Email was to let us know he'll be at a bail hostel (opposite a children's play park).
Do you seriously have faith in the British justice system?
I work in it and I don't .

perhaps in future, countries could arm wrestle over who gets to strip the citizenship of dual nationals, so that it is fair, like

or flip a coin: boo France guessed heads correctly and gets to strip citizenship so the terrorist is now the UK’s problem even though they have never set foot there

I wonder if this action by the British Government will be used to further radicalise people - those who are already on the path to radicalisation are now being given more propaganda.

Maybe we should strip anyone of citizenship if they commit a crime? Maybe other countries can send their non-citizens to our country if they commit a crime and are no longer wanted there. Where do you draw the line?

Arm wrestling would be preferable to the reality .

We do not have capacity in prison to keep dangerous offenders away from the public and we don't have police officer numbers to do jack shit .

Policing is now reactive not proactive .

Those emails are weekly . Forgive me for having zero faith that we could expect anyone to "Rot in jail"

I’m not surprised Canada aren’t happy. I think it’s wrong we make him their problem when afaik he’s lived here all his life. By all means arrest him if he comes back and lock him up....I have no sympathy for terrorists but don’t palm him off to someone else.

I just wonder when it will be our turn to get a terrorist who has been stripped of their citizenship by another country?

So joy
You have some suggestions on the failings of the British criminal justice system I take it ? I love when
People say that's not an excuse but have zero input beyond that.

Well for this one we have an out.

The lock em up throw away the key thing doesn't work either.

No Hellen it's hugs and our apologies thats going to work remember... Silly billies we are, that's what's gone wrong....

Alas @joyfullittlehippo we live in an age when glib pronouncements are in themselves solutions, so ‘send‘em back!’ is all the depth of analysis required

in 10 minutes there will be some other thing for people to froth about, and so it goes

Really ? Send em back?
Shame on you .

Titiana

This is where I have it wrong . I'm not compassionate enough.

All those who are calling out the 'frothers' remind me of the management who when l got my eye socket and cheek bone fractured when thumped at work would hrrrumph and ask me what l could have done better, no responsibility given to the perpetrator!

That's the issue . No one is accountable for their actions any more .

And there's lots of folk available to say why they shouldn't be.

It is quite a thing to post ‘No one is accountable for their actions any more’ while advocating that dual nationals be stripped of citizenship and thus be made some other country’s problem

Like, how do you reconcile these two positions, @hellenbackagen

@hellenbackagen - For me the issue is nothing to do with compassion. It's about setting a precedent. If we ditch certain citizens because they have committed atrocities abroad, where do we draw the line? What do we do when countries we can't trust claim our citizens have committed atrocities? How do we know who to believe? Which crimes mean they can't be repatriated?

It's not about sympathy with them. It's about concern for the safety and rights of all UK citizens abroad, and once we start eroding those rights, we are in muddy territory. Who do we reclaim and who do we leave to rot and why? What about grey areas or contested cases? If they are British, they are British and however much we don't want them here, they are our responsibility.

Ok . Great . However seems the government appears to agree
Or rather I agree with them.