Alfie Evans 7

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What worries me more is these same people are allowed to vote (and breed).

So ‘these people’ should be disenfranchised and sterilised rather than engaged with @user1471447863? What disgusting attitudes are being displayed on this thread.

Although, thankfully, eugenics is now, largely, out of favour.

@mynameisjune
Oh and ignorance isn’t an excuse for you’re letting off balloons even though you’re saying it is.

I didn’t say it was an excuse. It’s just the reason. It was over 10 years ago now, if someone had explained the impact to us we would have cancelled immediately. I feel dreadful about it, and now I am aware of the damage it does I am full of regret. As I said, my relative would have been upset to know what we did in his memory might have killed animals, and that’s a horrible thought that we have to live with.

This is why I do think it’s appropriate to sensitively mention the impact balloon releases can have, even when people are grieving. I wouldn’t vilify anyone for it, I wouldn’t be rude or critical, I would just gently suggest there might be more fitting options.

I agree with Numpty, and hope the law does change to protect the privacy and dignity of all those who are unable to speak up for themselves. to all the patients, families and staff involved in all this.

"Unsubstantiated salacious claims" are in the mainstream press, actually. Rightly or wrongly.

Why aren’t all these people on here moaning about balloons off starting threads and posting on other SM about it? Oh I know, because actually it’s not about the balloons it’s about making yourselves feel superior to the ‘poor stupid’ people who let the balloons off.

Vile behaviour from keyboard warriors.

fenneltea
What I find worrying is the publicity that they have achieved, losing all dignity for their son and causing distress for staff and patients, I do think we need further protection for children being paraded on social media. It is astounding how people have become so involved with this, and I have to wonder if it wasn't described in such aggressive language whether people would have been as interested, it was all 'warrior' 'fighting' 'battle' 'army' 'soldier' etc. There was definitely an element of people along for the hell of it, I saw one post asking people to remember the riots of 2011.

Agree with the whole analysis but particularly about Alfie's dignity. Children should be protected from such publicity, even from their parents. Not only because it may be harmful, but simply out of respect for their privacy and their personhood.

@comehomemax how the fuck is that salacious?? Fuck off

Just realised I talked about neon filled balloons upthread. I meant helium. Obviously.

Mirror have reported about TE trying to resuscitate him and find it so sad that this information has been given by a relative about his last moments. Even if given with permission just doesn't feel right. Obviously not down to me. Assuming it's true and not something said and changed deal.. Assuming jot.

@comehomemax apology appreciated

Lots of papers are now reporting that his poor daddy tried to resus him and that some supporters think they saw his little face in the clouds, poor wee soul, has he no privacy. It's very very sad but come on guys.

Oh fgs catinboots if he did he was probably desperate its so easy to be objective about Alfie Passing away but he's wasent my child I can't judge

Here you. A petition to get balloons and Chinese lanterns banned. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/215782

Hi all,

We're stepping in once again to request that posters discuss this event with the appropriate level of civility it deserves, rather than resorting to personal attacks and speculation. We don't want to remove the entire thread but we will, should we feel that it goes beyond repair.

When posting, it's important to remember that two parents have very recently lost their child after an arduous journey - this has to be one of the most painful things that a person can face. Can we please bear that in mind?

Again, we really, really don't want to delete this thread but we will have to take action if we continue having to remove posts.

Our local council has proposed banning the release of balloons and Chinese lanterns.

Lorna - I think this thread went beyond repair a while back...