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Alfie Evans 6

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CamomileTeaShotofVodka · 26/04/2018 01:49

Following on from the last thread. If there's one already please do delete this one.

Remember not to speculate or make negative comments about the family or discussions will be stopped.

Thoughts are with Alfie tonight Star

Such an important and sensitive topic.

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Boredofthisnow86 · 26/04/2018 19:34

The comments on the statement are beyond belief

Mightymucks · 26/04/2018 19:34

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 26/04/2018 19:34

I had a quick look at the army page - generally they are still supporting him, there are a number who believe he's being forced into talking, some who are turning against him and some who are aghast that they won't get further updates.

I'm gobsmacked they can turn against him or be aghast at not getting more updates. In the centre of this is a dying child. It's not celebrity big brother FFS

user1471450935 · 26/04/2018 19:36

Thank you for the flowers.
I think that statement is the best outcome for Alfie, lets hope his final hours are spent peacefully with his mummy and daddy and their families. I hope they get to do the hand prints and foot prints and get precious memories to cherish for the rest of their lives.

I know we aren't suppose to speculate, by I wonder if Kate's new barrister give more informed and less one sided advice, or if Alfie condition is so poorly that they can no longer spend time fighting.
I have only empathy and sympathy at their plight , and whilst I didn't approve of his actions, I only hope Tom gets all the support and love he needs to cope with Alfie's passing. He will need every help he can find.
Flowers to Alfie and virtual hugs to his adoring parents.

KoshaMangsho · 26/04/2018 19:39

I do hope it’s the start of a new relationship between the parents and the hospital. He has made conciliatory statements before (or has been made to) and then gone back on them when things haven’t instantly gone his way. I understand his frustration even if I don’t support his choices at all. But I am not going to assume that this is all going to be quietly resolved. If AH and the family cannot come to an agreement we might well end up in court.

Did you guys watch the last episode of Hospital? There was a baby stuck in hospital for months while suitable accommodation was found where carers could move in. This is all easier said than done. And the baby in question was a lot more clinically stable than poor Alfie.

I do wish all of them as much peace and acceptance they can have in the coming days.

user1457017537 · 26/04/2018 19:40

Mightymucks agree but then I’ve thought something was off with all the talk of “fighting” and ‘army’ and ‘warrior’. The poor baby hasn’t got a choice has he

mostdays · 26/04/2018 19:41

That poor family. I wish them nothing but peace.

TheFirstMrsDV · 26/04/2018 19:41

I got the vibe the dad is not being very sincere

FFS give it a rest.
What do you want from the man?

numptynuts · 26/04/2018 19:44

Well I lost all respect for him earlier. He might not be sincere but he's now doing the right thing and it takes guts to U turn like that publically.

BlytheofWindyWillows · 26/04/2018 19:44

Leave it now mighty. It doesn't matter.

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PivotPivotPIVOTTT · 26/04/2018 19:48

The AA page should be closed down now. Just saw this comment on Tom's statement. The army only care about themselves.

'He wanted all the publicity and support and hundreds of thousands of people emotionally invested. Now we don't get to know how this poor boy is doing? Hopefully there is a good reason for this! Very sad!'

myproteinpills · 26/04/2018 19:48

user1471 if we don't 'see' you again as hopefully there is a close to this sad case on the horizon we will always remember you sharing the story of your precious Phil with us. Much love and strength to all of those for whom this has been so harrowing, all the stories have been so moving. I hope that a bit like the CG threads, the tiny silver lining is that many people have learned a lot about EOL care and have a better understanding of everything surrounding it, it has brought back painful memories for me too but strangely cathartic to revisit and share Flowers

user1471450935 · 26/04/2018 19:51

Kosha
Yes we saw Tuesday's hospital and was struck how long poor Spencer and his mum and dad where having to wait, mentioned it in previous thread. Also the previous weeks episode followed the staff and patients on QMC PICU, God they were amazing.
Can I send Flowers and Cake to all the amazing staff who work in PICU and ICU, and hope you realise most of us bereaved parents/siblings having nothing be admiration for the work you do.

x2boys · 26/04/2018 19:54

Hes going to lose his child in the very near future Bored does it really matter why hes made this statement Hmm

youarenotkiddingme · 26/04/2018 19:55

Experiences drive feelings which drive behaviour.

This young family have been through the unimaginable. TE behaviour has been driven by this. The experience of the support of AA has also been a driver in his behaviour.

I hope that with new experience - a co operative and compassionate working relationship with AH, his feelings and behaviour will change. They will need masses of support once little Alfie can no longer sustain his life. I hope they get it. I also hope the staff at AH will be supported correctly too.

There's a lot to be said for forgiveness.

Parker231 · 26/04/2018 19:55

DH is a GP and has visited patients in their homes during their end of life care. I’m thankful this is not one of his cases as his job carries enough stress. I’d like to think (unlikely I know) that in years to come Alfies family will look back and appreciate that their son received world class care in an amazing hospital. Hopefully more people will acknowledge that we are so lucky to have the NHS, even with all it’s problems.

wannabestressfree · 26/04/2018 19:57

I am with @TheFirstMrsDV. He is a 21 year old man who has been consumed by his battle for the child he loves. He has probably been ill advised and swept along and as we all know not everyone will be doing these things in their best interests.

Yes I have felt for the staff of AH and have only been reading the last couple of threads but when I watched him on tv he looked haggard. I have lost a child and I have a terminal illness, it changes you.

Whatever his motivation let's all collectively back off and leave them be.

TheFirstMrsDV · 26/04/2018 20:00

I feel it may be more driven by the likelyhood of them being removed from Alfie's bedside. He's snide, so whatever he says publically now probably wont be what's actually happening behind the scenes

What about this makes you better than a twat in AA?

About you feel this and you suspect that.
Who the fuck are you?

NauticalDisaster · 26/04/2018 20:02

I hope for peace, tranquility, and love for Alfie and his parents.

I won’t question the motives for the statement, I just hope that those around them respect what they have said and leave them in peace with their son.

derxa · 26/04/2018 20:02

TheFirstMrsDV* Don't rise to it. I respect you and your history. Flowers

gingergenius · 26/04/2018 20:03

Agreed @wannabestressfree. I've just lost a long term, dear friend to a terminal illness. None of know how we'd truly react. My heart goes out to them, and anyone who has sick children, at Alder Hey and around the world.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/04/2018 20:03

I wish imagine he is scared witless. It's very scary knowing someone you love is about to die and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

BlytheofWindyWillows · 26/04/2018 20:03

Agreed wanna, whatever his previous actions he's in a place that I'd never wish on anyway. Thoughts are with Alfie, the family and staff at AH.

user1471450935 · 26/04/2018 20:06

That should be
nothing but admiration sorry.
Thank you myproteinpills yes it has been really helpful to talk to all these wonderful posters. I don't think I have added much, just ramblings from my memories. But I would like to think if one good thing comes from these threads, its either we have all learnt more about the EOL process or maybe people will go away and think ahead and plan for these situations and importantly tell someone or make a living will so there is less misunderstanding.
think it was Lougle who made the point there are different forms of life support so blanket yes or no plans can't always work.

We have told both our teenage sons our hopes and fears and definite no's. But my Wife is a farmers daughter and I am an ex herdsman, so maybe that made it easier.