A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

[jampot]

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

Exactly FF. It's sucha shame that anyone feels the need to be personal and judgemental etc etc. Well wishers worrying and being concerened is one thing but anything else is just plain out of order. Sadly I think some MN's will find it impossible not to offend in some way on this subject, sad as that may be.

Charlotte - the word you need to highlight is "appear".

Just because they are not telling the whole world every tiny titbit of information does not mean nothing is happening. They just have a different way of doing things over there.

there was a quote that the police said they couldnt be 100 percent sure that she was abducted, what, did she break the shutters and open the windows herself??? and they didnt notify the borders until 15 hours after she had gone missing, she could have been taken anywhere

Just read the story. Poor poor little girl. I breaks my heart. xx

I can not stand the patronising tone of some of the posters on this thread.

It is horrible.

Why pick over how people feel?

Until you've walked in someone else's shoes you can not tell them how they feel and you have no right to tell them what to feel.

You are not me so do not tell me I don't care about that little girl. Because I do, deeply.

When my little girl broke her leg on the bus (long story) and was unable to walk, she managaged (whilst i was on the loo) to stand up, and unlock the kitchen door, which i had stupidly left the key in, and take herself off for a walk near a very busy road, when i realised she was gone (the door open, her and dogs missing) i think my heart litterally jumped into my mouth, i ran outside screaming for her, and then ran back inside to get my mobile so i could call the police, and went outside again, where she emerged with the dogs (i like to think they were looking out for her) from next doors driveway. this lasted about a minute and has got to be one of the most horrific and awful things i have ever felt. i cant even begin to imagine how the parents feel, that someone has taken there child and thy are utterly powerless. its awful

Do you know i actually sat & thought abou this thread last night before i went to bed & felt very angry & upset that this is the way it has turned out, it really made me wonder why i come on mn to be honest.

I think coming on here & discussing what is happening in the on going investigation to find Madeleine is fine but what i do object to is some of the discusting & offensive things people are saying.

I also don't see why when someone says "shut it" everyone should listen & stop talking, why? ok it is your opinion that you think people should stop talking about this but this is an open forum & if people want to discuss what is happeneing in the investigation to find Madeleine then why not, i don't think now is the time for people to judge but to discuss what is happeneing in finding Madeleine surly thats ok.

In fact just reading this thread upsets me, how people can be so calous is beyond me, have some feelings for the family that are going through this, yes it is not one of us on this thread going through this but they are human beings & poor Madeleine is a little, innocent girl like any of our children & deserves to be returned to her loving family.

I am leaving now because this is just awful, really changed my mind about mumsnet & the people on it actually.

i think everyone feels incredibly passionatly about maddy, because nearly everyone on this site has children, they also know how they would feel if it happened to them, which may happen to be different from other people.
the people that are being cruel and unneciseraly nasty need to really think about what they would be feeling if they were in the same situation, and pray that it never happens to them

We are going on holiday tomorrow. I won't be leaving our son anywhere. Even that doesn't guarantee safety. But this story has really hit home to me. This has really freaked me out. And don't get me wrong, I myself have left ds in the car before, whilst I nipped into a shop. I promised myself I wouldn't do it again. And that has been compounded by this.
Lets hope she is found. Soon.

well, that's debate for you, scooby. And has anyone said anything disgusting or callous? Several have, rightly IMO, questioned how this has been handled by the media and the fact that some people do seem to be wallowing in others' grief!
We can feel disgusted at what's happened, worried about the safety of our own kids but how the hell can we really feel what this family are suffering right now? To suggest otherwise is at the very least foolish.

oh for he love of God will everyone just stop this now. It is truly vomit inducing.This thread should now be laid to rest and deleted IMO.

no one said we are feeling what the parents are feeling. Who said that, anywhere?

All some of us have said is how much this has upset us and how desperate we feel for news.

Is that really, really hard for you people to understand?

Can this thread not just be let alone until there are actual developemnts reported, not continually raking over media speculation and rumour based upon hearsay and third hand "evidence".

i wonder how long (if she is not found) the media will continue to run the story, before it dissapears, like the hunt for the man that killed that lady in japan, and they KNOW who he is and what he looks like, but its not reported on anymore.
Her parents will never forget this, but other people will, and it will only be on an anniverary or a news special 'do you remember' thing where people will go 'oh yes, remeber that little girl, how awful' i just hope that this story doesnt turn into one of those, and it all ends well as it can

I find it distasteful that some people have been popping up here calling some of the more emotional posts insincere, "wallowing in others' grief", telling them to "get a life", etc. Not to mention starting myriad other threads of snide comments ridiculing them.

I do not believe in God, but you will not find me badgering people on prayer threads. I do not bully believers into admitting there is no proof for existence of God, not in private, and definitely not on public MN forums.

I do not agree with them but I do not laugh at them - a practice some of us might like to emulate.

lets just hope that the next reported news is good.

who's laughing? It is my opinion - and obviously that of some others - that wallowing's been going on. Feel free to disagree but that's my view.

i agree cotdzure, like i said most people are just expressing there shock and compassion and trying to empathise

I think the word is schlock.

Sorry, but this thread should have ended days ago.

amongst all the bickering going on here we are all wanting the same outcome.

face it, is not going to end unless it gets deleted, lots of people are interested in the disagreing discussion of the mumsnet members, this is my first mumsnet thread ever today, and its quite overwhelming.
people are going to keep looking at this thread because its like no one can drive past a road traffic accident without staring (which incidently causes more accidents)

Thank you Cote. I hope people will listen, but I doubt it.

Charlotte there was a piece on the news about the girl in Japan this morning actually as police there have released video footage of the suspect going into/out of his apartment.

I imagine that once the parents come home, as sadly there will have to come a point where they will have to come home, as much for the resumption of some sort of normality for their other two children as anything else, it will be harder for this story to remain in the news, as currently updates are pretty much limited to appeals by the parents coupled with some speculation from members of the public helping with the search.

I don?t think anyone is ?grieving? for that little girl, I think that people are holding their own children a little bit closer and trying not to imagine life without them. It happens whenever there?s the death of a child.

And I do find it ironic that those of want the thread stopped, are the ones that, by posting on them, are bumping them to the top of active convos.

rubbernecking doesn't even begin to describe this thread.

A thread to discuss developments was always going to end up this way because there haven't been any developments. The poor child is missing, the parents are distraught and the police are doing their job.

In the absence of developments, all people have are the thoughts and feelings that the events have triggered. People respond differently so there will be disagreement.

Actually though I don't see much profound disagreement because everyone finds the case disturbing and distressing. It's not like a controlled crying debate where people approach the issue from radically different starting points.