A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

[jampot]

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

I am deeply shocked at your comment jampot . This family are going through hell right now, and we should be all keeping our minds on them and that poor ittle girl. Comments like this will NOT help!

I am not saying anything casually.

It was jampots comment I was talking about specifically but I find the way people partiake in this speculation quite disturbing.

jampot - you should be ashamed of yourself, seriously.

And some other poster's comments keep jumping out at me as being deeply insensitive.

Wannabee - I think you are another who has said quite enough.

If you people want to continue your very inappropriate conversation, why don't you don't it offline?

The rest of us are concentrating on the facts, not speculating and making sick assumptions.

I don't think anything should be read into police reticence. It is a potentially criminal investigation fgs and they owe noone unrelated to this unfortunate child anything. Speculation, in the absence of fact or overt developments, gets nowhere and can only be hurtful.

well said, QM

I am sorry if I have sad anything inappropriate.

I was just expressing (perhaps badly and for that I apologise) a sense of shock and bewilderment at what happened. I am so very sad for everyone involved and I am praying for them. I will not say anything more because I am not, in anyway, trying to start any morbid speculation and if my posts have been interpreted as anything other than a desire to maintain hope for the family involved it is better that I say nothing more.

We are all mothers here. You can't seriously think anybody is being flippant, or even "casual" about a little girl being abducted from her room.

MN is a place where people exchange thoughts and ideas, and this thread calls itself "A thread to DISCUSS developments...", and that is what we are doing.

We all deal with shocking events in our own way. You might go light a candle and say a thousand verses to your preferred deity. Others try to find out what really happened, discussing possibilities, avenues of hope.

You just don't have the right to expect everyone to conform to your personal understanding of appropriate etiquette on this or any other forum.

Seriously, if it is so disturbing to you, you don't have to read it.

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'developments' none of you are talking about developments though are you, because there are none???

I am not concerned with being disturbed, personally. Nothing I read here suprises me anymore. I am only concerned with adding to the pain of these parents and their friends and family and I think this conversation is sick and un necessary as there are no 'developments'

Please just stop now and lets all hope and pray we can have a nice thread to all celebrate when Madeleine is found safe and well.

Quitemouse is anything but .

But your speculations are not discussing developments are they. Some people just have a morbid fascination with the facts, and as for disturbing, if I were close to the family I would find them deeply so and that is what you fail to understand.

I meant details, not facts because.

I meant details, not facts because little of hwat has been discussed is factual.

i am not bothered about being personally offended. i am imagining how i might feel if i was in those parents's shoes. Just because it makes you feel better to endlessly and morbidly speculate about what might have happened is as of as little importance as offending my feelings. why do it? It is totally unnecessary and can only hurt.

I agree ruty, I am not personanlly offended. I just don't understand why people do it and my thoughts are for the family who I am sure would be devasted to see some of these thought voiced on a public forum and discussed.

Ah, interesting because the Port. mayor mentioned "english" first in his list of possible people who had her the other day. I think that's worse news. A local known nutter you could probably track down locally in the area. An expert English male paedophile with good connections and ability to disappear might have her in Thailand or North Africa by now. It was her being still in the area which made me think she'd be found.

yuck you lot

go and spend some time with your own families

do something lovely for your own children rather than wasting your time on here endlessly speculating

I worry about some of you on here I really do

I was going to stay away from this, and I do not intend to say anything more about the actual case because I now see how easy it is for many MNers to misinterpret other people's method of expressing concern and their desire to "make sense of a senseless and sad situation" as "morbid speculation".

If you read any of my posts I have NEVER speculated about an outcome - like everyone, I am simply HOPING for a positive one, I am simply trying to make sense of what is going on because this real life situation resonates in the deepest part of the heart for anyone who is parent.

However I do wish people who feel that are sitting on a moral high ground of "silence" would actually remain "silent".

What I'm wondering is whether the person that saw the man and the child near the marina has only just come forward, or if this information has only just been released? If the former - then wtf did they not say so sooner - after all there cannot have been anyone in the area who did not know that a child was missing. If the latter, then perhaps releasing the report earlier might have brought other witnesses forward?

Given the normally low crime rate in the area, and with no disrespect to the Portuguese police, I think that perhaps the police there simply are not used to dealing with this kind of case. I think they should accept any offers of help from the British police. There is clearly a difference in the way these things are handled there and here.

Further to my last posting, have just heard that senior police officers from Lisbon have arrived in the Algarve to help with the search. Why only now?

The latest interview on Sky does not sound positive

It seems that the Portugese police have missed alot of opportunities.

Borders were not alerted for 24 hours after the abduction

I would want to know that everything that could have been done was being done, it seems not however.

I think the Portuguese police started with the assumption, understandable given the repeatedly stated fact that this kind of thing just doesn't happen in Portugal, that she had not been abducted but had wandered off and would be found asleep somewhere.

With hindsight (always a wonderful thing to have on your side), they did miss opportunities.