A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

[jampot]

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

oh god, ggg, i am so so sorry, i hope this isn't hurting you too much. this must be awful to watch.

No, it is not hurting me - although my dh thinks that I should not be following all this as it is too close. I really really feel for the family.

i can't even begin to imagine... kind regards to your family, ggg.

hello lady

Very sweet and sensible LL

Here are my (admittedly morbid) thoughts on this: If the abductor(s) were a couple who couldn't have children or something, they would have taken one of the baby twins. If they went for the three year old, I can't help but think it is not to love and cherish Madeleine and call her their own.

If it really is a pedophile who abducted Madeline, three days after her disappearance, I seriously doubt that she will be found unharmed. If she is found at all.

It must have been in a film that I heard re abductions "The first 24 hours is the ONLY 24 hours". Portuguese police has been incredibly slow starters on this. Forensics team managed to show up 20 hours after parents realized she was missing. [hmmm]

I just so badly want her to be found unharmed. Don't think that outcome very likely, though...

Tbh I find this need by people to cut and paste their own posts time and time again extremely arrogant, how great you must think you are that your posts should keep making it to the top and be read by others time and time again, or perhaps you just like causing offence, vera? Time and time again? And yet you have the audacity to preach to others who ?judge?, hipocrit.

The fact that the ?suspect? was only seen from the back and was just someone seen carrying a child really doesn?t sound as positive as the police were portraying it yesterday. Also they were saying earlier that there will be no news conferences today, which doesn?t sound as if they?re anywhere near finding this little girl.

Am somewhat torn over the amount of news coverage this needs though, on the one hand I find it unnecessary for the media to tell us that ?madellyn?s parents have attended a church service?, it?s not a development, the public doesn?t need to know what those people are doing while they wait for news, but on the other hand if the media doesn?t report these things other events in the world take over and eventually the story drops out of the news altogether until there is a development.

Is there still no more news?

I have been in bed all morning so havent had the chance to catch the news.

I agree that the general public do not need to see the McCanns going to church and walking about the resort
on the other hand media coverage like this may pray on the mind of the abductor and result in the release of their daughter

I just don't understand why people need to post their morbid and ghoulish thoughts on what has happened, at this point it is pure speculation. It's like the way people gather at the scene of an accident which in my opinion is as equally unpleasant.

What does it achieve? Would you voice your thoughts to one of the family? No, so why do it here?

no nbg nothing. the lasest was that her parents were still appealing for information.

CoteDAzur I'm afraid I agree that if the child was abducted by a desperate couple they would have taken a younger one, a baby that would be more likely to adapt to a new family, and less likely to remember. but I guess one possibility is that this child was abducted by someone known to her or the family. but I too very much doubt this will have a positive outcome, sadly previous cases show that there is very rarely, if ever, a positive outcome.

I agree with Aitch, Vera and Twig

Saves me having to think what to say

Shouldn't have left the kid alone though

It's a very awful situation but I can't understand why it would make you cry if you aren't linked with the family

I just hope the family haven't been given false hope, as the police now seem to be back tracking a bit from yesterday saying they had a pic of suspect.

Kitty, I agree on a number of points too, but I do disagree on one. I have no links with the family. It is not something that has happened to me personally, but I for one can't stop thinking about a little girl that has been taken away from her Mummy. Just thinking about her fear makes me cry. I am not sure what is not to understand about that.

Kitty, the fact that a little girl is out there, somewhere, alone & petrified. Only wanting the arms of her mummy & daddy...wondering where they are, why aren't they coming when she calls them...why aren't they coming when she cries out..

I 'lost' dd in a soft play centre for 5 minutes a while ago...it felt like a life time....even though I knew she HAD to be there I was on the verge of tears. 5 minutes of not knowing was painful enough, imagine, if you will 3+ days.

Twofalls but if it?s wrong to discuss this, should we even be discussing it at all? In fact should it even be reported in the news? Given that it isn?t really in the public?s interest?

We are here on MN to exchange thoughts and ideas, twofalls. And I am not about to ask your highness for permission on what I can and cannot say on MN.

If all you want is the news and factual developments, try Google News .

I am interested also in the thoughts of people who post here, including their "speculations".

Wannabe, I just think there is a line between showing concern and empathy and sharing your thoughts and feelings with others on an awful situation and idly speculating about the details of what could have happened to her. How does it help anyone?

and how does sharing your thoughts and feelings on an awful situation help anyone? this is not your situation, or anyone else's on here, essentially it has nothing to do with any of us. you can't have a thread of 400 posts all saying "it's so sad" and nothing more. everyone already knows it's sad. there's no need to talk about what's been said on the news because it's on the internet anyway people don't need to come on mn to be updated. And this is a discussion forum, when something like this happens, people discuss it.

if it's not up for discussion then maybe it shouldn't be reported in the news at all and that way no one would ever be any the wiser and no one would offend anyone with their opinions.

I didn't say anyone had to ask anyone's permission. I was just asking how raking over the possible details and the idle speculation was helping anyone. Don't you feel uncomfortable putting those words in writing and putting them up on a public forum? Obviously not. This thread is making me feel uncomfortable and I feel like I am also standing at the scene of a horrific accident gossiping about the details so I think I will leave you to it.

kitty, i profoundly disagree with vera, so i'm not sure where that leaves you. there's no point in coulda shoulda wouldas (or wouldn'ts) at teh moment, i think. there's a thread for a wee prayer or candle on active convos, that seems more apporpriate to me at this stage.

but don't you feel uncomfortable saying "this is so sad" "this makes me feel sick" or "she looks like my dd"? essentially it's the same thing, people trying to penetrate someone's grief they have never met or know nothing about other than what the media tells us.

this isn't the scene of a horrific accident. if you were in the holiday resort then yes, it would be tasteless to wander around discussing it, but this is a discussion forum, the family aren't here, the child wasn't abducted from here, and all our speculation isn't going to make a difference to the outcome.

wanna - while I agree with the notion that it is not appropriate to buy in to other people's grief, there is also such a thing as compassion. I shudder every time I think of this situation, it doesn't mean I am, in any way, trying to pretend it is, in some way, happening to me.

Yes I do actually wanna, which is why I have said none of those things. I find the whole thing uncomfortable which is why I am off to light a candle and say a prayer for a little girl who must be absolutely terrified. I don't wish to penetrate anyone's grief or partake any further in a discussion I find inappropriate. I do wonder how you can casually speculate in the way you do but you are well within your rights to do so.

im afraid i dont see any of this discussion as people wanting to buy into someone else's misfortune at all.

my best friend from school was found murdered and let me tell you it nearly tore her parents apart especially her dad whose health suffered terribly after the event as he was the one who allowed her to go to the crimescene. Everyone in the area was struck by it whether they knew her or not : teenagers because it could have been them and parents because it could have been their child - things like this touch us in different ways and it is very wrong to suppose that everyone wants a bit of the action. Maybe we feel that discussing it will somehow keep us from suffering the way the McCanns are right now.

I just hope and pray the child is found safe and well and alive more to the point whether it is today or in a months time.