A thread to discuss DEVELOPMENTS regarding Maddie McCann

[jampot]

We can discuss parenting styles in a few weeks

i don't reckon you need to do much pushing or shoving, twofalls, of course everyone wants the child safe, of course they do. it's just that in the meantime there's not much else to be said, really.

no, again i read that drink drivers bit and the poster agreed that it wasn't a great example but were talking about legal responsibility and asking if they would be held to be negligent. i saw no judgement,truly.

You're right. I do remember a drink driving one. I must have thought it was so preposterous my mind filtered it out.

Yes Aitch, that was my point really. I didn't really mean to write that bit about pushing and shoving because of course everyone wants that. I was just making the point that nothing is ever that simple and of course whilst there is nothing concrete to talk about, its the issues that will get discussed. And that is when people start disagreeing with each other.

now you're making me want to do a cut and paste to check.

There were plenty of others, and many other posters picked them up at the time. As I said, don't want to start cutting and pasting and adding potential hurt given that MN thread has been quoted in the papers. But I didn't post on it (apart from early on saying how terrible it was) because it took such a censorious turn.

Yes, people feel shocked and concerned because 'it could be me', esp. on a parenting site, and feel the need to discuss it. But it doesn't take much wit to avoid casting aspersions.

okay, i really didn't read it like that, edam. but surely if plenty of people picked up on them then they were thwarted at the time so the opinion doesn't stand? so isn't that just a discussion?

No further news btw

I feel for the mccanns because whatever the outcome of all this, postitive or negative their lives has been changed for ever, the lives of their children, whether that will be 2 or three going forward have been changed/ affected for ever. The people who are judging the parents should take a moment to think how little maddy is feeling at this moment if she is (hopefully) still alive. Whilst you may or may not agree with leaving them unsupervised, what right should someone have to steal away with anothers child.

We are human beings. We were born with a sense of reasoning and an ability to think and process. When something happens to people we know, we think "what if". What if I'd done something/ said something different, left earlier, left later, taken this route, taken that route. There are very few people in the world who accept things that have happened without "what if".
With the WWW and the constant news coverage we have, when horrible things happen, most people relate that to themselves, think 'if that happened to me'. We think about how fragile things are and how so much is beyond our control.
FWIW I dont think that anybody is serioulsy pointing the finger at the family for not being in the apartment when their daughter was taken. Everybody wants the safe return of Maddie.
There really is no point of arguing among ourselves about this. Okay, the parents were not there. As I said on the other thread, it probably wouldn't be something that I would do myself, but there will be a thousand other things that I would do that Maddie's parents would not. We all have different styles of parenting, as evident by the amount of threads that kick off.

wrong thread, magic, no one's talking about agreeing or disagreeing with the parents here.

thanks for the reminder, Beety.

Aitch, it was the sheep and goats/thinkers and emoters thing that caused me to comment.

so, are there any developments?

i thought it was an interesting thought, edam, and worth exploring, as it went some way to explaining the 'i feel sick, my daughter is blonde' over-identifiers (imo)... and might explain to them the possibly what they thought was cold-hearted approach of those of us who are more happy discussing the issues than picking over the minutiae of the case. iykwim?

I've been out this eveing is there any new news

bbc news

for crying out loud I started this thread because the other one was heading in the direction of judging what the parents should or shouldnt have done. The reason I put Maddie instead of Madeline was because I saw it in print - THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SINISTER IN IT! I for one would check back to see if there have been any developments and not to see whether some virtual people would leave their children unattended - that is all.

There is no need to get itchy about this thread any more than any other news thread!

plenty of people do get itchy when they see long threads devoted to horrible upsetting news stories, jampots, you know that. and maddie may still not be her name, it might have been in print because her name is long for a newspaper headline. anyway, night night, hope there's good news tomorrow.

presumably the threads are long because people have stuff to say though?

suppose it depends on your definition of stuff. if you mean icky hand-wringing then yes. actual developments, no.

but MN is all about filling threads with nonsense and bollox surely?

Donmt know if you were a member at the time of the tsunami but there were loads of threads

no, i wasn't around then. think dd had just been born, actually. i personally don't get all the 'i feel sick, my daughter's blonde' stuff but it's all been happily thrashed out tonight and am trying to go to bed so will talk about it tomorrow if you want. i do hope there's good news, that's for sure.

no more news this morning

those poor poor parents

I thought there might be some development this morning. Very sad that there isnt. Saw the parents press conference last night. Cant imagine what they are going through.

Apparently there is now a reward leading for news of her return.

I hope todays the day they find her.
Her parents must feel like they've been to hell and back a million times by now