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Two year old murdered

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paws4thought · 13/02/2007 16:40

I've just read on the net about the 2 year old who was sexually assulte and murdered. why does this have to happen? I'm very upset as i'm sure you all will be once you hear/read about this. Have a look at \link{http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6356009.stm}

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GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 13/02/2007 20:30

I am not going to follow the link- I think I have been given too much information already. Today I switched off the Radio 1 news whilst driving in the car, and actually cried my eyes out.

I'm beyond sad on this one - I'm absolutely fucking furious. I have never felt so vindictive in all my life; I am not going to say what I want to do to this filth, because it would probably get pulled, but I really, really want him to suffer. Hope he is put into general population in prison, and they tear him apart.....slowly.

Poor little angel. I feel I can't take any more bad news about children, there has just been one thing after another recently. What is wrong with people??????????

cc21 · 13/02/2007 20:34

Unfortunately these pathetic fucks get put in special wings for nonces, where they live a life of riley.

It makes me sick, there is no deterent at all

Hulababy · 13/02/2007 20:40

So sad. Poor child, and the family too

cc21 - that is not actually true, especially with younger offenders. They are in mixed prisons environments on mixed wings and are still expected to work/attend education along with the rest of the prison population. They do occasionally get put in segreation (isolation cells) for small periods of times if they become a risk to others or become at risk themselves.

GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 13/02/2007 20:41

Please don't tell me that.

Hopefully, there is a decent 'screw' in there who takes it upon himself to release him in with the general population. Just one day would be enough. Shouldn't think he'd last much beyond that, actually. Not without dribbling the rest of his way through life and having to eat through a straw whilst sitting in his own shitty nappy. That would give him time to think.

ernest · 13/02/2007 20:45

but tlv, it was her uncle. worrying about 'stranger danger' is all well and good but USUALLY these things are done by 'friends' and family. Do you honestly mistrust every memebr of your family and refuse to leave your child's side 24/7? It's not possible and it's not healthy.

cc21 · 13/02/2007 20:46

True hula, but with these high profile cases you can't help but think they get treated differntly due to their 'noteriety' iyswim.

I feel for her mum she must be in some kind of hell

GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 13/02/2007 20:49

Tis true.

Majority of these nasty cases are carried out not by a stranger, but by family or friend of family.

This was no normal family though, was it? I could easily leave my darlings with any of their uncles (they have 4) or any male member of my family without a second thought. You have to be fucking sick beyond belief, not just male and related. I know it's not always apparent, but instinct is a much under-rated thing.

Hulababy · 13/02/2007 20:54

cc21 - not in my experience so far and I have known some very high profile cases. Depending on the level of media coverage it gets at the time of sentencing will just mean that more prisoners may or may not be aware of who the offender is as they enter prison.

Mercy · 13/02/2007 21:02

A few women/ mothers collude in these sorts of incidents, maybe unwittingly, but it does happen sadly.

I used to work on the admin side with the Chief Psych. who worked with children who had emotional and behavioural difficulties. The percentage of those children who had suffered serious sexual, physical and emotional abuse was high.

A handful of those children's stories still haunt me to this day.

slayerette · 13/02/2007 21:05

My little boy is 3 going on 4 and I'm still haunted by the death of Jamie Bulger all those years ago. Since having a little boy, I've thought about it so many times...it's just unbearable. How could anyone harm a little child like that? And when I think that those two boys are now walking around, living protected lives with new identities...They might be fathers themselves now, with some poor unsuspecting partner who has no idea who she's really with. It doesn't seem justice to me.

Bovvy · 13/02/2007 21:07

We cant hang or castrate because of their human rights....... Surely they lose their human rights. Bastards.

GrumpyOldHorsewoman · 13/02/2007 21:07

Haunt is right.

I can't shake the image from my head of this poor little baby and that was just from Radio 1's 1.00 news today. Too much information. I understand why we need to hear these things happen, because it's the reactions of the public that (like it or not) go some way to forming the legal strategies in cases. But to explain in no uncertain terms what state the poor love was in when discovered by her mother and how she got that way pushed me so far over the edge. My eyes have been stinging all day and I hate how it's made me feel. I want to kill the fucking bastard myself, and if I had the chance, I'm full sure I would (and could, which is scary enough). Don't honestly believe I have ever felt this angry and outraged in my entire life.

TLV · 13/02/2007 21:11

don't get me wrong ernest I don't sit and worry about stranger danger all day and night, I work part time and dd is looked after by her gran and other family members however if I or dd didn't see a family member often or even if i felt like i didn't trust a particular family member I certainly wouldn't let them sit for me no matter how desperate. I just wanted to point out the stats thats all from the article

Bovvy · 13/02/2007 21:11

I try and explain to my lot about safety and not going off without telling me where they are. You try not to frighten them but what do you do? Especially when there are so many sex offenders living around us unsupervised and some unknown.

I knew someone who got done for sexually abusing his daughters. I felt sick knowing he had been a friend of the family and also sick because I wouldn't have had any clue just exactly what he was, wouldn't have never known until he got arrested.

It is scary.

Wolfgirl · 14/02/2007 10:44

Hey you know what ladies/mummies (writing with tears and weeping), that little babe is in heaven right now, and Jesus has her in his arms. She will be playing with all the other little baba's that have left this world, and she will be sooooooooo happy up there.

Take comfort, the man that did this to her, will be walking a living hell. And when HE finally dies, he may very well live there for eternity.

Bless you all. xx

Seansgirl · 14/02/2007 11:10

I have been in tears all morning thinking about the poor poor little angel and her mothers suffering it has me twisted up inside. To have found her in that state. I feel so sick. I too think we have too much information, I have switched the radio off today and will not look at the papers or news as I can't cope with it. My DD is just coming up to 4, and I just keep remembering her at that age.....and urgh I just cant think about it it is so awful. My heart goes out to her mother.

She is in heaven, and it has ended her suffering, but I just wish it hadn't taken this for her to get there. I hope the evil, sick, piece of scum not fit to have any humna rights gets the same treatment in jail and gets ripped to shreds. bastard.

groggymama · 14/02/2007 11:13

Incomprehensible. I can't stop thinking about this, its just round the corner from us, I've felt sick and tearfull since yesterday.

oliveoil · 14/02/2007 11:14

fgs

I hate these threads where you all bale in with hang him, shred him, torture him posts

yes, whoever did this is evil but come on!

bet you all chase after prison vans throwing eggs

quietmouse · 14/02/2007 11:17

oliveoil, please tell me you are not serious? Do we not have every right to say how we feel about scum like this?

oliveoil · 14/02/2007 11:17

oh feel free, it is my own fault for opening it

Egypt · 14/02/2007 11:23

if it was my daughter i'd want to rip him to shreds myself.

i shouldnt have opened this thread.

LittleBoSheep · 14/02/2007 11:27

Olive oil FGS...what they have done is unforgivable...they now look forward to 20 years of being supported at OUR EXPENSE..fed, clothed, re-educated. Then some do gooder will decide they are re-habilitated and house them (again at our expense) until they do it again.

I think in cases like this as long as there is sufficient DNA evidence to prove their guilt that we SHOULD still have the death penalty.

Wolfgirl · 14/02/2007 11:29

...but people are human with emotions, and they do want to share their sorrow, and vent feelings which include anger.

Our hearts go out to the child, the mother, family and the community. Its like a pebble thrown in a pond, the impact is right in the middle, but it ripples out far and wide. It effects all of us!

unknownrebelbang · 14/02/2007 11:29

The "screws" have a difficult enough job to do as it is, without pulling stunts, and getting disciplined and probably sacked.

And yes I do think it's a vile vile crime, and I don't agree with a lot of what goes on within the CJS, but that's just ridiculous.

hunkermunker · 14/02/2007 11:30

The death penalty costs more than life in prison.

I am appalled and actually was very nearly sick when I first heard about this - I have a 2yo DS and this is unbearable to think of.

But I cannot for the life of me see how this kind of revenge makes us a civilised society.

And I agree with OO - the sort of righteous indignation on these threads is also sick-making in the extreme.