Farage speaks at Trump rally

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This:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37177938

I hadn't actually thought that Nigel Farage could go lower in my estimation. But have to admit I was wrong...

Actually I would like to engage in constructive discussion, from a remainer to a leaver, with Mollie as they are able to formulate a viewpoint without resorting to insults and have a constructive reason as to how they voted in the way they did. I'd like to learn more from that, and I think remainers and leavers fundamentally want the same thing, we just have different ideas how to achieve it.

If you on here are so ashamed to be British or English - suggest you find another country (in the EU) to suit yourselves.

I'm not ashamed to be British. The fact that Farage is now a poster boy for Britain makes me despair and this association makes me want to distance myself, in the same way you have stated your post.

How can remainers and leavers want the same thing

The only question asked was should we remain in the EU yes or no

The idea that Trump is going to win this election is laughable! It is not going to happen.

Vast swathes of the Americans populace - including many, many, many Republicans - don't want a bar of him! Happy days. :)

Trump's an arse, can't wait to vote against him and his vile policies.

Seeing King Brexit pontificate near him merely strengthens that resolve.

Apart from my seriously nuts DSM, I know no one who is voting for Trump, even die hard GOP members are sick of him. There is hope!

Enthusiasm we want the best for our country, we just disagree on the best way to achieve it. Is that such a difficult concept? That two people who completely disagree can meet somewhere in the middle? That two opposing ideas can't see mutual viewpoints and build from there?

Of course people want the best for the country

But fundamentally it's from different view points on how that is achieved

We are leaving and remainers have to accept that but what we have voted on will be ignored as we can't half leave half stay

The middle ground is always the way: it pleases no one and everyone at the same time.

Although it may seem like it, this isn't a binary issue. If you think it is then good luck on your own. I firmly believe that both sides have very valid points. At the moment, diplomats, politicians, councillors and civil servants are trying to negotiate trade deals to ensure the country can run post article 50. May will adhere to the wishes of the 52%, but if we were to invoke article 50 tomorrow the country would go to hell in a handcart. It takes careful negotiating, careful planning, precise strategy, something which the Brexit politicians failed to lay out, to negotiate how we go on outside the EU. This cannot be done overnight. This cannot be done over 18 months, which is why Cameron and May were perfectly correct to not invoke article 50.

Let the backroom boys do their stuff, and THEN let's invoke article 50. All the Brexiters calling for it now are displaying their ignorance of wider trade deals. And that's just stupid.

I believe both sides had valid points and I disliked the sneering from the remain side (I still do) and the lack of understanding why so many people felt the EU did nothing for them, for a while I was swayed to leave as I believe the EU will fall apart and many things about the EU I dislike but ultimately I had to make a choice as I wanted to vote and that was to remian

I was being pedantic. But the vote was simply stay or leave

We can not stay in a little bit we are out, we won't be able to vote on EU matters and will have no say in EU policies

Of course we can't just jump ship it will take time to work out but out we are

And now we have to deal with the fall out but I am hoping it won't be as bad as many predicted and we just have to get on with it and think May is the best person leading a party at the moment to do that job

And that is from a long life labour supporter

This would be the man who was seen queuing in the German Embassy the other day, for family passports or whatever? I am surprised he has the time to make speeches.

Mollie123, actually many people would like to see the Leavers pick up the bill for the twenty year economic shitstorm that's about to happen and then say they are still pleased with the outcome.

Enthusiasm I honestly want to hear this from someone who believes in what they voted for. I genuinely am all ears.

What do you hope will happen when we leave the EU?

How do you envisage it affecting you in your everyday life?

Boogers, very good, pertinent questions.

Farage interviewed earlier today in the US on Fox Business. He discusses Brexit, the Establishment, its lies and tricks, how we beat them, and the "complete pack of scaremongering lies" they tried to trick us with.

My mortgage rate is going down

Value of my property is likely to drop (but that is now part of the property market cycle and needs to happen just not dramatically)

I think there maybe changes in contracts at work. There hasn't been a sudden rush of people leaving (quite a few from the EU) but the feeling is that change is on the way that was there before and even more so now (work for NHS)

As I had no plans to move to anywhere else in the EU so that will not impact me but the value of the pound has dropped so more expensive to travel (though good for my European friends coming here)

Has there been a dramatic change no not for myself personally. I worry for friends as they feel insecure at where there future might be. The increase in attacks is very concerning as some unfortunately see their reasoning has been validated but I hope these attacks have dropped in numbers and people are punished harshly

Time will tell and uncertainty isn't good for public morale or for business so the quicker they start working on our exit the better

I am pissed off with Cameron for calling a referendum, with Corbyn for not making it clear where Labour stood, at Boris for using it as a career move and for the negative campaigning more so from the Remain side they were so arrogant in their belief they would win how could they have been so out of touch with the public

Dixie - not everyone (on here) thinks of Americans like that - believe me!

I have total, unwavering faith that Americans will reject Trump wholesale in November. And in my experience, Americans are the friendliest, most open, sociable, polite, welcoming, funniest people I've met. Probably not Trump supporters, but they're a lowest common denominator minority. :)

the "complete pack of scaremongering lies" they tried to trick us with.

Pot. Kettle.

Enthusiasm, like a lot of people who voted Leave your world seems very small and there doesn't seem to be a lot of big picture stuff going on.

Some of us are already seeing the bigger picture start to unfold, which involves redundancies, contracts moving abroad, otherwise profitable businesses folding almost overnight, hate crimes that are too distributed and numerous to punish 'harshly', as you say, and the potential for significant civil unrest once people realise they were lied to on a massive scale. The university and research sectors are already starting to experience serious financial shocks as EU students disappear (on some courses they represent 25% of the income), the health sector is starting to initiate emergency planning in relation to the likelihood of major staffing shortfalls.

Which is why so many people are jumping ship. Just because you are not seeing them do it, this does not mean it isn't happening. The brain drain started on 24th June.

the quicker they start working on our exit the better

And the quicker the talent will leave. Just watch. It happened before, in the 1970s.

Farrage is a wealthy man, and he won his referendum. Trump is pure poison to both liberals and conservatives. Why did Farrage choose to lower his stock like this? (I didn't think much of Farrage, and I think even less of him now.)

Because Farage is a deeply stupid, greedy man.

Just like trumper then, pp!

Because Farage is an stupid, unprincipled, ego-driven weasel.

Look at him jumping ship as soon as the referendum was won.

Certainly just like Trump. Like calls to like, particularly amongst the bigoted and dim.