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Farage speaks at Trump rally

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HPFA · 25/08/2016 07:15

This:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37177938

I hadn't actually thought that Nigel Farage could go lower in my estimation. But have to admit I was wrong...

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MakeItStopNeville · 28/08/2016 23:24

I think the vast majority of people I know are a little confused as to why a man, who publicly told the POTUS to butt out re Brexit, is now happily telling the US public how to vote. OH! I know! Because Fromage is a self serving, narrow minded prick who will do anything for a cheap buck!

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:25

And while we'd about it, what does the repeated "it" stand for in this paragraph?

It is not, it is fundamental to what is happening in world politics and in UK politics. it explains Brexit and the rise of UKIP which has now been dwarfed by the revolution that is the rise of Corbyn. The BBC now have to discuss it, even if they continue to sneer, they can't escape the truth and conceal it because Momentum and millions of people are tweeting about it and discussing it and they are losing credibility if they try to deny its existence. Open any newspaper, inclusing the Financail Time and even the Establishment's favourite, the Guardian, and it will be all over the political pages, because that is the reality that everyone now understans and that is what is changing world politics as Davos panic and fear Trump and the rise of populism against the elites, which includes Corbyn and Momentum too.

Lweji · 28/08/2016 23:26

Welcome to the Twilight Zone and good luck.

claig · 28/08/2016 23:27

'And yet when asked for an explanation earlier you referred us to Owen Jones. Interesting.'

Because I thought that even if you thought what I was saying made more sense if you replaced it with "My Arse", I thought you would never say that about Owen Jones's struggle to understand the issue in his book called "The Establishment and how they get away with it".

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:29

I might, I haven't read the book.

Anyway, there's time enough for Owen Jones.

What do you think the Establishment want?

claig · 28/08/2016 23:31

'is now happily telling the US public how to vote'

Farage isn't doing that. He has not endorsed Trump for that reason. Trump would have liked Farage to endorse him, but Farage lacks the bottle to do it, in my opinion.

MakeItStopNeville · 28/08/2016 23:32

Errr, attending a Trump rally and publicly speaking is endorsing Trump. That's how it works.

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:34

Hmm, and yet he went to Trump's rally and said he wouldn't vote for Hilary.

Nope, can't see any endorsement there.

claig · 28/08/2016 23:35

'Errr, attending a Trump rally and publicly speaking is endorsing Trump. That's how it works.'

No, Farage weaselled his way out of it. He implied it but did not do it. We all knew he probably wouldn't have the bottle to do it openly.

Ted Cruz attended the Republican Convention after Trump was the Republican nominee and Cruz, true to Establishment form, did not endorse Trump and got booed by the Republican attendees.

claig · 28/08/2016 23:38

Farage writing in today's Mail on Sunday about his speech at the Trump rally.

"I did not endorse Trump, because I had condemned President Obama for telling us what to do in our referendum"

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3761715/NIGEL-FARAGE-Trump-warm-man-gave-bounce-ll-new-Ronald-Reagan.html
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Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:39

Anyway, what do the establishment want?

Is it 500 years of democracy and peace and the cuckoo clock?

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:41

"I did not have endorsement relations with that man"

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:42

Or should it be "sexual endorsements"?

claig · 28/08/2016 23:43

'Anyway, what do the establishment want?

Is it 500 years of democracy and peace and the cuckoo clock?'

No it is not that. I think the best way for you to understand it and believe it is if you read newspapers and try to follow world events to get the background. It is no use me telling you because you won't believe me and think that "My Arse" makes more sense.

claig · 28/08/2016 23:44

Read Owen Jones's book on it and see if you can spot where he goes wrong. That is a good start.

SwedishEdith · 28/08/2016 23:46

We all knew he probably wouldn't have the bottle to do it openly.

Who is "we" here?

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:49

Do you know, claig, I do read newspapers. I read all sorts of things in newspapers, but it's just no good. None of them are telling me what you think what you call "The Establishment" want. Because until we are clear about that, we're just not going to be able to begin understand how those heroes of the ordinary people - Arron Banks, Nigel Farage, Donald Trump etc - are going to save us all.

claig · 28/08/2016 23:49

Observers of Trump and Farage.

Farage didn't even know he was going to speak at a Trump rally until a day before. Farage has been reluctant to endorse Trump for a while. He has gone a bit Channel 4 and was surprised to have been asked to speak at Trump's rally.

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:52

"gone a bit Channel 4"

Is that Cockney rhyming slang for something?

claig · 28/08/2016 23:53

No it is a reference to Channel 4's slant on Trump.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/08/2016 23:54

It's a little premature to call the rise of Corbyn revolutionary. Yes party members has greatly increased votes for labour have not

Momentum are creating a lot of noise with shouts of support for Corbyn and hanging on his every word but not much else is happening. No real polices from Corbyn just popular political rhetoric student politics and lots of talk about crushing the establishment

Kaija · 28/08/2016 23:55

Ah, I see. Do not like Donald Trump at Channel 4 then?

Here's a fun game: see if you can explain why without using the words "The Establishment".

claig · 28/08/2016 23:59

'It's a little premature to call the rise of Corbyn revolutionary'

No, Enthusiasm, whether you like Corbyn or not, it is truly revolutionary for a real left wing socialist Old Labour 100-1 outsider who no one thought stood a cat in hell's chance, including himself, Diane Abbott and McDonnell, to defeat the Establishment's Oxbridge candidates by such a huge margin. It is a revolution that has shocked the Establishment and its servants. It shows the mood of Labour members and socialists in this country and spells the end of Establishment control of the Labour Party for possibly decades to come, unless the Establishment candidates split and form a new Establishment party.

Corbyn's victory was earth shattering and now the 172 have challenged him once again and it looks like Corbyn will cement the revolution by another victory which means that the Establishment is at its wits' end about how to control the socialists and the people again.

claig · 29/08/2016 00:01

'Here's a fun game: see if you can explain why without using the words "The Establishment".'

Simple, the same reason as Davos, sheer panic.

Kaija · 29/08/2016 00:02

Yes, Earth shattering. The Establishment must be pooing their pants over this one:

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