investigate 9/11

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My uncle sent me this and thought it was an appropriate time to share it with you

The Truth?

They use a Newton freefall speed theory (times squared = distance squared / acceleration) saying that the building took just over 10 seconds to fall - free fall is 9.2 seconds. The building basically disintergrated - only 2 buildings have done that, WTC 1 and 2. Other skyscrapers have burned for hours and hours and not fallen down.

200,000 tonnes of steel fell in 10 seconds

Would steel melting make for so many explosions in the buildings?

Like Jahn said, flight 93 site, there was nothing there - no plane wreckage!!! Also they state that that plane landed in Cleveland and not pennsylvania - where are the passengers?!!

www.publiceye.org/conspire/Post911/dubious_claims/web_010911-N-6157F-001.jpg

shows you pictures of some of the debris field, so the no debris thing is a load of tosh.

Explosions, do you mean the puffs of dust? Cause when one level hit the next on the way down.

Where are the passenges, in pieces, people working in the area recovered body parts.

this is all a load of cobblers

spooky, it didn't work later on, must be a consipracy to shut me up

try this one

try again

i saw the programme about how they collapsed and that did make sense. the rest of it, i just don't know. the black boxes, the passengers, the hole in the pentagon and lack of burn marks on the lawn argh

This refutes the 'lack of wreckage' myth

'Flight 77 Debris
CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"'

the pentagon crash was really hushed up even at the time of it happening, it doesn't fit in with the way america reports things.

The only bit that I wonder about is the plane where the passengers reportedly tried to storm the cockpit and overthrow the hijackers. I do wonder if that plane might have been shot down but as for the rest, cobblers I say.

Not read this whole thread, but I do know that body parts were found at the site. Only recently it has been reported that the workmen renovating the site keep finding gruesome bits of people.

All this conspiracy nonesense being continually banded about must be dreadful for the victims' families.

Agree with MB's theories... what I've read of this thread so far.

mb did you see my link further down the thread - the crash test? that shows a plane disintegrating on impact.

They do, sometimes, but not always. We have had friends bodies recovered when they crashed, after the even and after the memorial servace in one case

there are obvious pictures of obvious debris to be found on the web. These theories are a load of balls.

How many changed? You have mentioned two people.

And someone would have had to have had the secret call, wouldn't they. I'm not saying your friend, but someone would have had to make the change. And why bother to tell them, and not all the other people. If they realy wanted to avoid the rich they would have done it at 5 in the morning, not 9.

Loose Change has nothing about people being warned off (except the Mayor of SF who was booked on a flight to NY that day) or Jews missing that day or lack of body parts at Ground Zero - that 1000s were killed there is in no doubt, sadly.

mb, the "puffs of dust" weren't from air pressure floor-by-floor as the building descended - they were in seemingly random places, way below the floors collapsing.

"No debris" was in the Pennsylvania field, but at the Pentagon shouldn't there have been large bits of the ripped-off wings which didn't make holes in the wall lying around outside? And where is the black-box evidence and the CCTV footage?

More questions than answers.

Most of the debris in the pentagon fell into the lower floor of the building

and the body parts I mentioned were at the pentagon, although there were obviously (sadly) far more at the WTC

but the windows were intact too and the lack of reporting of it argh i'm getting drawn in

I believe Flight 93 was shot down by the US but I just can't believe that something on this scale could be covered up. How many people would have to have been involved in this? The whole US government? surely someone would have spoken up by now

Nothing about lack of casualties at the Pentagon in Loose Change either - not many though, maybe a dozen?

They are not following any of the old red herrings here, and the assumed loss of financial computer evidence in WTC7, subsequently recovered from hard discs found in the debris and then buried again by the govt, is v interesting (if unproven) - also the vast quantities of gold bullion moved from one building to another,abandoned and then recovered (allegedly).

Go on, mb - watch it - you know you want to....

Just watched it all. Very interesting indeed.

IMO there IS evidence that the authorities knew it was happening and also that that information was about to get into the wider domain as evidenced by the insider trading, the insurance claim and the put options on the airlines.

However a lot is made of how the towers fell indicating that it was a demolition job. Obviously I'm no expert but I've watched the fottage of the WTC falling and that shown by the Loose Change show of other towers and to me it would seem that it is a top down implosion. I think that the planes flew in and that, coupled with the ensuring fire, weakened the entire structure. The weight of the floors above the flight impact bore down on the floors where the planes stuck (i.e the most damaged part of the building) and they couldn't take the weight and collapsed. So the momentum from that weight falling simply cascaded (for want of a better word) downwards through the floors below. As for the other "explosions" shown as the towers fell, I agree with MB (I think she said it) that pockets of air pressure would have / could have built up as the upper levels fell down and this blew out the windows.

The Osama bin Lden tapes and him being left handed - could that just be a mirror image of the original? Though to be honest I always thought all that video malarky was a bit dodgy.

In conclusion - the jury's out here.

Absolutely Jan alot of questions

How can all these "conspiries" be so completely false? These incidents are not nothing "balls" - alot stands out as refuting the "official" story of sept 11th.

So who is painting the real picture? To many questions...

(Part of the opening 10 minutes is about a CIA(?) plan during the Cuban missile crisis in the early 60s to stage the shooting down of a planeful of civilians; it's not a new idea!)

deckthehalls,
apparently there are witnesses to the shooting down, plus the way the plane fell shows that it broke up in the air, AFAIR. I read a piece linked from commondreams.org ages ago about it.
I never believed in that one, because it was such an unlikely story that the guy would have launched the attack audibly, before he finished the phone call to his wife. And the total overkill of how the story was sold, with artists impressions of the passengers fighting with the hijackers.

i think the jury will be out for a while!