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Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part VIII

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Cologne2016Petition · 26/01/2016 21:04

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MrWriter · 03/02/2016 11:15

I had a quick Google about land ownership in chile and saw a few articles about the north face guy and his wife? Is that what you mean Grace?

BrittEkland · 03/02/2016 11:20

GraceKelly said .... check out the land ownership in Southern chile.

Got it! Chile welcomes foreign investment (this will backfire on them) and they are Eastern Standard Time (great for the Americans).

Things are crystallising for me now. I have come across some illuminating sites.

“Modern democracy, as we know it, is less than 250 years old. For most of history, except for this brief period, the world has been ruled by powerful elites who wielded absolute power over their societies, controlled the wealth and resources of their known world, and dominated their people by force. The New World Order cabal plans to restore this model of totalitarian rule on a global scale.

“The endgame will be a one-world government presiding over the earth for the benefit of global oligarchs and their superclass functionaries, leaving the mass of humanity as serfs, to serve the elite, while suffering impoverishment and immiseration. The plan includes scientifically engineered global population reduction (viruses/vaccines/genetically-modified food), cutting the world's population to less than one billion, leaving the earth's resources for the exclusive use of this global oligarchy.”

GraceKellysLeftArm · 03/02/2016 11:28

Chile is very interesting geographically - with Antarctica to the south, the Andes to the east, pacific to the west and Bolivian salt flats north. It is a fertile land.

BrittEkland · 03/02/2016 11:30

2016isANewYear said I won't assume a conspiracy where incompetence and stupidity can explain a situation.

That's just it. Situations are explained away by incompetence, stupidity and honest mistakes. My antenna has been telling me for years now that I just don't believe those explanations anymore.

I sometimes think that the Mid-Staffs scandal was an opportunity that presented itself, was allowed to continue unabated and cost the lives of many elderly. In order to make room for incoming migrants into the UK, who are at least of working age, it is far easier to dispose of those at the other end of life. Conditions such as under-staffing and neglect can be created, etc etc. The CEO and other staff suffer no consequences (except for some collateral damage, i.e. nursing assistants) and lessons are always learned (!)

MariscallRoad · 03/02/2016 11:34

There is a book by Meadows et al The Limits to Growth: A report for the Club of Rome's Project on the Predicament of Mankind 1972 based on research and the online version is here:

www.dartmouth.edu/~library/digital/publishing/meadows/ltg/?mswitch-redir=classic
An update is found in the Guardian:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/02/limits-to-growth-was-right-new-research-shows-were-nearing-collapse

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 11:43

I spend a lot of time in archives.
As a consequence, I go for the bungling-along-cock-up theory.

Inkanta · 03/02/2016 11:58

'I spend a lot of time in archives.
As a consequence, I go for the bungling-along-cock-up theory.'

Lume - me too!

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 12:08

It's kinda hard to argue against it when you see people quite clearly angling for short-term gains knowing that there might be adverse long-term consequences, or being overwhelmed by sudden changes of plan in which they have no say, but which look entirely reasonable to the person changing the plan.

People lower down the hierarchy are quite capable of deceiving those above them, who then support action that works against their long-term interests.

claig · 03/02/2016 12:13

This seems more planned than cock-up. Part of planned political correctness.

"German journalist claims the government tells its media what it can't report on following outcry over Cologne sex attack news blackout
A former news boss claims the media takes its orders from the government
Wolfgang Herles said reporters are told to write news to 'Ms Merkel's liking'
He described German media's closeness to the government as a 'scandal'
The country's media has been pilloried for failing to report Cologne attacks
Mainstream media ignored the incident until several days after it occurred
...
Asked if the media landscape had 'got out of whack', he replied: 'Today, one is not allowed to say anything negative about the refugees.

'This is government journalism and that leads to a situation in which people no longer trust us.'

He elaborated by saying the topics that should be reported on are 'laid down by the government', with instructions passed down to news executives that they should frame issues in a way that is for the 'public good' of Europe.

'We have the problem that... we have a closeness to the government.

'Not only because commentary is mainly in line with the grand [elected political] coalition, with the spectrum of opinion, but also because we are completely taken in by the agenda laid down by the political class.'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3429621/German-journalist-claims-government-tells-media-t-report-following-outcry-Cologne-sex-attack-news-blackout.html

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 12:13

The Graun covers itself in glory again
The article says Danes are 'split down the middle' about new migration laws. It then proceeds to quote a dozen Danes, not one of whom supports the new laws. Carry on to the comments, and you get at least one Dane having a rant about the Guardian.

Also this is a sobering video.

GraceKellysLeftArm · 03/02/2016 12:28

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BrittEkland · 03/02/2016 12:35

Lumela - Thanks for the vid. Now I understand where the doubletalk of certain contributors on these threads comes from. The German major remarked that German girls get harassed by their own, and the corollary is "so what's your point?" It's: Tell the girls to take another route instead of We will ensure your girls arrive at school safe. If I had any doubts before about a one-world govt, I don't now.

German newspaper cannot publish anything negative about the refugees and have to run copy past Merkel's office.

Is it coincidence that Germany is the EU country who always wanted a European Union for decades, and in order to keep the image afloat it has now instructed mayors of all towns to talk rubbish.

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 13:00

Seriously, Britt? You believe that all copy goes past Merkel's office and that all mayors would toe the line? That not even ONE mayor would come out swinging to say he or she had been leant on? Seriously?

I used to work in local government. I know what local politicians are like. Some of them act from conviction and some of them are just out for the point-scoring.

I think you need to become better acquainted with the political process, I really do.

Inkanta · 03/02/2016 13:02

Not sure what is going on but to be honest my instinct is to come out of the EU. The UK needs to re-group, re-think and set out its stall. It may be an unsettling start but I'm sure there will be a balancing out process and all will be well in the end. Have heard 'experts' all will be well in the end.

BrittEkland · 03/02/2016 13:19

Sure, Lumela. All copy critical of the current refugee situation. Why not? There is only such much criticism and disagreement any nation will allow to be published.

How do you explain the assinine response of the mayor in the video? He is not denying that there is harassment from the recently-arrived, BUT it's up to you to take your girl children by another route. It's ludicrous.

TheNewStatesman · 03/02/2016 13:26

One quite interesting thing about both Denmark and the Netherlands is that gay men are now, on average, more conservative-voting than straight men. Islam is generally considered to be the key factor in this shift.

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 13:49

Yes, Britt, its ludicrous. But he's probably toeing the line espoused by whatever political party he belongs to, because he's trying to ascend the slippery pole. So long as there are still people in Germany who think it's racist to criticise migrants, there will be politicians who will represent them.

As for copy, there have been critical articles by Der Spiegel linked to on these threads.
This one for example

Again, do you really think all journalists would just shut up and let it happen? ALL of them? You only need a couple to break silence and the whole game's off, esp in these days of social media.

2016IsANewYearforMe · 03/02/2016 14:27

I agree Lumela.

Troubling video. That's what I mean when I say that things will look very different in 5 years, if those in power at the moment don't grasp the nettle.

As a voter, I would like somebody sensible to vote for. In the absence of that, I will choose the best of a bad bunch, that is whoever will protect me. Not all order and control is bad. I don't want to live in chaos and anarchy. I'd like to have a choice between a Hobbesian nightmare and Fascism, frankly.

GraceKellysLeftArm · 03/02/2016 14:42

There's a huge elderly Jewish population in Florida who routinely vote jeb bush - they have learned with the one exception that they are safer under right-wing rule.

MariscallRoad · 03/02/2016 15:06

388

Inkanta · 03/02/2016 15:32

MariscallRoad

Only 388 signatures - not a lot is it. Confused

2016IsANewYearforMe · 03/02/2016 15:36

No, it's not a lot at all.

GraceKellysLeftArm · 03/02/2016 16:16

There's somewhat of a sick irony that in the best part of a month we've managed to garner fewer signatures than the number of women sexually assaulted in the space of a few hours.

LumelaMme · 03/02/2016 16:45

You've summed it up there, Grace. I think the petition is only a couple of weeks old, though, so we might do better yet.

I'd like to have a choice between a Hobbesian nightmare and Fascism, frankly.
I couldn't have put it better myself, 2016.

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