Sex Attacks in Cologne and other European Cities Part VIII

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No I know that. People were trying to pretend that there was no cover up because of the race element. The Council were supposed to provide the checks and balances so that this couldn't happen. That is what "safeguarding" is supposed to be about. The multi-agency involvement.They didn't. At best they turned a blind eye. At worst some members were involved or profitted from it.

I would also like to know how the police would react to gangs going around attacking children.

The police would ignore it
Just like they did in Rotherham, oxford, etc

Probably the same way they'd react to gangs going around attacking women. I.e. not very well. That's the problem with gang crimes, very few of the perpetrators are ever caught.

There are men from all nationalities working as taxi drivers in my town. Most of them are polite courteous chatty and helpful.

But there are two who make me uncomfortable.

1. the one who told me his wife left him and went to a refuge. He said she pretended that he abused her.

Havent seen him for a while though.

1. Very similar to a PP. there is one who wont reply to me apart from to raise his voice to tell me not to put the light on in the back of his cab. I always ask permission before i do this and its only for a matter of seconds so i can find my mobile (to let DH know i am on the way home) or my purse. And i always switch it off when i finish. He still dosnt like it though and it makes me feel uncomfortable

When ive done the weekly shop and walk to the taxi rank my heart sinks if he is parked at the front of it.

And you cant walk past him to the next one because its just not done. There is also the risk of being accused of racism.

And how can you complain about a driver. He knows where customers live.

there is a trial going on in Rotherham at the moment which isn't being widely reported but hopefully will be after the verdict. What's coming out of that trial that at least one Labour politician was not just ignoring it, but actively involved in facilitating the cover up and helping the criminals get away with their crimes and possibly even the crimes themselves

By the way Does anyone know about the Bilderberg Group, or a book called Them adventures with extremists, by JOhn Ronson,

I just read a fragment of it today ( its dh book) and it happened to mention Denis Healey talking about the world being open and I think free movement of people...this is what the Bilderberg wants...

I wonder If Junker or anyone involved in the EU is part of Bilderberg...

Its just it seems no matter what the threat, isis etc, what the catastrophes, nothing is more important than the free movement of people...

In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder and, a steering committee member for 30 years, said: "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."[8]

You want Claig for that "1984" stuff.

I was just about to write that Claig knows all about the Bilderbergers. The group is given to much conspiracy speculation on account of the fact that their meetings are held in secret and minutes never published. I do know that if you are a serious (not in demeanor ) billionaire, then you'll likely be invited to join.

"And how can you complain about a driver. He knows where customers live."

When I first moved to Brussels I lived right on the edge of the city in a reasonably safe neighbourhood but which was very wooded with not much in the way of street lights at night. I had a series of "over-familiar" taxi drivers of a certain culture and I would ask them to drop me off down the road figuring I'd rather take my chances running through the bushes in the dark than have them know where I lived. :( That sounds really fucked up doesn't it!?

I would never, ever, ever use an Uber cab.

Me neither Grace I dont use any apps anyway.... bit of a techno novice.

When Uber puts all the black cabs out of business, there won't be the secure option of a proper cab anymore. Black cabs are expensive, but I trust them and appreciate them being there.

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Helena, in S Yorks the cabs, both mini and black, are almost exclusively driven by Asians. I've had one black cab driver in ten years and no white ones. If you go to places where there are cab ranks it's just SE Asian faces.

Cabs were highly involved in the CSE rings. In the current trial all the men have involved with cabs and one of the women was the cab operator/radio person.

It was openly known for years before all this came out that they were dodgy, I've had bad experiences myself, and women were careful about using them. It's pretty much an open secret locally that black cabs are run 24 hours round the clock. The person who has the legal licence will rent it out to people who can't work legally when they're not driving themselves. Often your driver doesn't look anything like the licence photo, has virtually no English beyond 'left' and 'right' and has no idea where they're going. Everyone knows about it so I don't know why it's never been dealt with. I suspect because like CSE the council daren't touch it for fear of being called racist.

In Rotherham itself they have tried to introduce measures to improve safety like in cab cameras (which I would have thought would also protect the drivers) but the drivers are being hugely resistant, protesting and claiming discrimination.

The European Commission saying there is no link is scary. Looks like they plan to push ahead and deny the problems being caused.

Fishinminepuddle
The last white taxi driver I had told me he was getting intimidated by the asian drivers. He said they'd make snide comments, take his passengers, scratch his car, that sort of stuff. I haven't seen him since then, so I don't know what happened after that. What you said reminded me of it. It's only one driver's experiences though.

On the subject of "new immigrant" drivers - are they actually licensed? I know in some countries your license automatically applies and is valid in your new country - but I'm sure that can't be the case in many of these situations. ??

DeeEm I find that claim quite extraordinary - and the only possible plausible explanation I can find is that they are being very careful with the words refugee vs. migrant. As I think someone else on this thread pointed out, refugees from Syria do not create crime (something like 0.5% of crimes committed by non-german natives). The migrants are another kettle of fish altogether. Semantics won't put people's minds at rest.

I've answered my own question by checking gov website. From any country outside the EU (essentially) you may use your full license for 12 months and then you must take the theory + practical tests.

Although the fact that you may drive for 12 months is in itself shocking as I'm quite sure that standards for passing a test in the UK/Switzerland are quite different to those required in the sub-sahara for example.

Fish ……. I think the main reason why nearly all minicab drivers are Pakistani / Bangladeshi, also a few African, is because the owners of the cab firms are Asian - in my county that is so. Most have very bad attitudes, as if they resent the fare. When new to this country, it is the easiest form of employment to be found and the looseness of it suits the men. They are not confined to working to a set pace, like a manufacturing plant for example. Also, some are not supposed to be working, have no insurance, and this is the best way to get work ‘under the radar’ and disappear when you need to. I have not used a minicab for many years ….. the last one was on Christmas Day c. 1992 and that guy was inappropriate. As he dropped me off he asked to come in because he thought I was lonely and could do with (his) company! About 4 yrs later I read in my local paper that a minicab rape had occurred with a description of the perp. He had an unusual facial feature which I immediately recognised so I contacted the police with my info and I believe he was apprehended.

I would not dismiss Claig and her "1984" so quickly. A one world government would be easier for those in charge. With a growing population everywhere, some people very well informed (because of the internet), articulate, more vocal and critical it must be getting more and more difficult for the great and the good.

That is why UK govts began to dumb down state education at least 35 yrs ago, especially History. If you never learn your nation’s place in history then it leaves a gap in a child’s sense of self, the individual never achieves a sense of events and why or how they came about.

The dumbing down requires not less than three generations. So if little Johnny runs to his father with a question, Dad will not know the answer. Then Johnny runs to Grandparents who also don’t know. And this will be repeated throughout Johnny’s world … there is no one who knows anything much.

The only people that will be knowledgeable will be the privately educated and those ordinary folk who have an inate wherewithal and have not succumbed to gullibility. The rest will be fodder.

We are there already. You can barely have a debate nowadays because speakers you disagree with are shouted down from the first sentence they utter. What happened to listening carefully and then putting your side?

I am interested in some ideas Claig shares.

There does seem to be an emphasis on robotic types in society. I see some institutionalised (sp) professionals around wirg very robotic behaviour and wonder what kind of "course" they have been on.

haha yes, whilst spouting loudly about how off-the-bat, original and yooneeque they are - there's as much autonomy shown as within the North Korean army!

There's a lot of clap-trap within the state education system, mine repeat rote from the Great Labour Manifesto Book of Marxism [tm] and I have to gently (they're v young) have to explain that what they've been told is not strictly true and actually... I have no idea why it's being rammed down the throats of babes.

Grace "refugees from Syria do not create crime (something like 0.5% of crimes committed by non-german natives)."

The figures are these:

of recent immigrants, 0.5% of Syrians commit a crime within the first year of arrival. 40% of North Africans (Moroccans, Algerians and Tunisians) commit a crime within the same period. North Africans are very unlikely to have claims for asylum accepted, but there is a problem returning them to their home countries so many of them remain in Germany. In the first half of 2015 Germany only managed to deport 53 out of 5500 Algerians, Moroccans and Tunisians who had no right to remain in the country. And since the autumn the numbers of men from all three countries trying to get to Germany has increased tenfold.
www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/marokko-algerien-tunesien-sollen-sichere-herkunftsstaaten-werden-a-1074634.html

No wonder Germany is in the process of declaring all three countries to be "safe" and is negotiating with them all to take back their nationals who have been refused asylum, eg.
www.bladi.net/mohammed-6-angela-merkel,44255.html

Oh education and manipulating child's minds... I think is something we have to be very aware of...but I fear most people don't take enough interest or even have enough understanding.
I'm in Scotland and parts of the new Curriculum for Excellence (developed under the SNP) makes me wince a bit...all a bit ...can't think of the word...but nationalistic maybe.
Things like for something they have to learn about Scottish OR UK democracy. And it is throughout the curriculum. I don't think it is a bad thing to be proud of your heritage and background and know about where you live but I do feel like there is a subtle pro-independence agenda. But when I mentioned it to another parent (who is pro- independence) they really couldn't see what I was talking about it ...

i have often thought about the cabbie network and how easy it would be for cab drivers to share information about where vulnerable people, especially young girls live or even where they are, if they are walking by themselves and stuff like that. I had no idea about the involvement of mini cab companies in Rotherham .

why doesn't the government crack down on this dodgy cabbie business? tighter controls? it's all a but murky.

why are Uber cabs even more unsafe than ordinary mini cabs?

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