Mass sexual assaults in Cologne and other European cities part III

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link to part 2

Keeping this in the spotlight since the mainstream media isn't.

Bur by Abetadad's admission, he is a UKIPer so maybe 500 women is the price to pay to close the borders, eh?

What about it Abetadad? It woz Nigel whodunnit, wasn't it?

I get that Wilde and I am def with you on not backing down.

Frankly I don't know what is right, I just know what is wrong. Different approaches - none of this is easy

Has anyone ever come across CEDAW?
This is a UN body, the full title of which is The Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women.
The UK is a signatory to this body. When a state becomes a signatory, they agree to:
-to incorporate the principle of equality of men and women in their legs system, abolish all discriminatory laws and adopt appropriate ones prohibiting discrimination against women.

-to establish tribunals and other public institutions to ensure the effective protection of women against discrimination, and
-to ensure the elimination of discrimination against women by PERSONS, organizations and enterprises.
I think perhaps this issue of the assaults in Cologne and other cities on NYE, should be raised with this body.
I have found this website, in regards to this body in the UK:
thewomensresourcecentre.org.uk/our-work/cedaw/
I will shortly be looking for them on twitter and tweeting at them, the articles that I have been reading and tweeting over the past few days.
There is also a template letter on their website, for approaching MP's in regards to CEDAW and specific women related issues.

Wild thank you for sharing your draft letter. I personally would never support the statement "It has exemplified the incompatibility of our two cultures". I am sorry but that is a blanket statement, which i can absolutely not support. I also think this is an incorrect statement.

There are many Arabs who have integrated, who contribute brilliantly to society all over Europe, who have enriched our society in various ways.

Legs should obviously be Legal!!!!

onthephone, I agree with you re that phrase. What I was saying was he avoiding mentioning it, but it clearly meant what happened and of course it minimised it! Easy for him to just swerve and call it a mess when it didn't happen to him. He is being childish and cowardly by not stating what the 'mess' was. He should be stressing the importance of treating all criminals the same way.

Mephisto - no doubt men in Brussels have already informally discussed how to deal with the public fall out from the Cologne Incident and counteract public support in Germany for closure of EU borders and increasing probability of EU exit by the UK.

Room I very much like your thinking regarding CEDAW. I will read up about the organisation and the sort of things they do. Thank you.

I do think that we can make this a women's issue, rather than merely an immigration issue as all violence against women is unacceptable.

The events from NYE can be presented as a springboard so to speak, a focusing event' which in policy making is a significant event which shapes people's opinion on a matter.

Campaign for an end to all violence against women, up the ante on this across all issues including immigration, intimate partner violence, sex trafficking (!!!!!!).

Get this uncool topic back on the public campaigning and policy agenda.

All people who want to live in Europe must no that there is 0 tolerance for violence against women.

2♀16.

It has to be a women's issue Pink otherwise we would have all manner of fuckwits, right and left, jumping on it

2♀16

(Can't find the 'up' key ffs)

Found a couple of cedaw related accounts on twitter but nothing official.
I have also discovered that trying to use 2♀16 as a hashtag doesn't work, twitter for some reason discounts the Venus sign, meaning the hashtag ends up as 216.

But, to me, this is the issue, Pink.

You think it's a religious issue? A cultural one? Which culture?

You think it's a male issue? In that case, Emily has been correct all along.

Room
It prob needs to be set a jpeg or whatever. Out of touch now

Every man who gropes a woman in Egypt and parts of the Arab world is not a criminal in their own country. They are doing what is commonplace and accepted

What a statement. You really think all men in Arab countries are given the right to act like animals and all think it's ok and it's accepted

All people who want to live in Europe must no that there is 0 tolerance for violence against women

Even those who are from Europe need to be told that because many of them just haven't got the message.

It's now up to 500 attacks in one city on one night
It's so depressing

Every man who gropes a woman in Egypt and parts of the Arab world is not a criminal in their own country. They are doing what is commonplace and accepted

*The EU is itself under threat here of breaking up and don't believe that 500 sexually assaulted women matter more than keeping the EU borders open and Shengen intact.

Hmm. I always thought I was a pragmatically ruthless type, able to sacrifice sentiment in pursuit of higher goals but holy sh*t that's cold

^^

the women and children of Europe have already been shat on by the EU, with no proper borders - no proper centralised police force, no information sharing, ( blown open by paris attacks) sex slaves. No one cares about them do they? How easy to shift trafficked women across Europe now but they don't matter, only the German girls do.

This is why EU disgusts me to my core, my core.

Is there more to this life than the supposed and unclear so called economic benefits?

516 cases

99.3% of Egyptian women have been sexually harrased

You really think all men in Arab countries are given the right to act like animals and all think it's ok and it's accepted

pretty much, look at sharia courts in the UK even they are in favour of the males, penalizing women, how on earth can they - we expect any sort of equality living in Muslim countries from the top down?

the whole religion of islam is sexist.

a man rapes a woman and its she who is ostracised.

Wildewoman, I think your letter raises some good questions and in a far more articulate way than i ever could. I dont think the comment about the integration (or lack of) between two cultures is misplaced. I think you are right, there is an enormous incompatibility between them. The people who have integrated successfully are those who have rejected the aspects of their culture which places women beneath men. Those who move here and maintain their cultural mysoginistic beliefs have not integrated successfully at all.

Wasn't there a woman beheaded in an Arab nation last week because she committed adultery😕