UKIP on 20% and a chicken on the loose in the House. They're desperate!

[claig]

"Labour has a five-point lead over the Conservatives in the latest Opinium/Observer poll, which shows that half of voters think the prime minister is looking for excuses not to take part in live television debates ahead of the 7 May general election."

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jan/17/labour-takes-lead-conservatives-cameron-opinium-poll

Why don't the pollsters ask the question that the public asks themselves - Would an empty chair perform better than Cameron in the TV debates?

The Establishment promoted Russell Brand to try and stop the people and their party - UKIP. Now we hear that Cameron's sixth cousin, Oxbridge graduate, Alastair James Hay Murray, who "is in remainder both to English and Scottish peerage titles, including the barony of Strange and the dukedom of Atholl" and plays the role of "The Pub Landlord" is standing against the People's Politician, Nigel Farage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Murray

They're desperate. Will they ask Laurel and Hardy to stand aginst the People's Party next? Oh wait, they've already got Cameron and Clegg.

Still worried about your health claig.

UKIP are not the peoples' party, well, if they are they are people I tend to avoid as they are offensive and small minded.

UKIP are the BNP in blazers, nothing more nothing less.

'I'm hugely concerned, it feels like 1930's Germany.'

You've been worried by listening to the scare stories of party spinners who claim that millions of ordinary people are racists and that Farage and UKIP MEPs are racists. They aren't. They are ordinary people and they are going to topple the established political class which is why the spinners are trying to scare the people.

'Where do we go now?'

We are at the beginning of the end of the old cosy two party system. There is a Green surge, a UKIP surge, an SNP surge and a Monster Raving Loony Party surge. People have had enough and they want change. The dying system will try to cling on as long as they can. The Establishment will try every trick to act like King Canute and prevent change, but it won't work.

We are heading for a change in our voting system, the emergence of a PR voting system so that people can finally vote for what they believe in and be really represented rather than voting for TweedleDee just because they dislike TweedleDum.

This is the most exciting time in politics for years because the people have had enough and are demanding change. The old system is dying, something better and new will be born. Democracy will triumph and the people will win.

I wouldn't worry about that.

'Still worried about your health claig.'

I suggest you'd be better off worrying about your health and try and get out more and listen to different views and meet the people. Go to Clacton and speak to people to see why they voted in the biggest landslide in British postwar parliamentary history.

What I wasn't worried about was OPs illness, just to be clear.

Mutton, what are you worried about?

Have you listened to Farage? He's an idiot, regardless of the racist, sexist nonsense, he doesn't understand the economy, the European Union, or basic monetary policy.

I run a 40m business, that relies on import and export, he can't grasps the basics, so my business, and all my employees would be redundant.

'Natalie Bennett: Two-party system is entirely broken'

www.politicshome.com/uk/article/84854/m.about.html

There is no need to be scared. We cannot go on with the same shower running and wrecking the country. The people have had enough and it is they who are changing the system. Those spinners from Oxbridge would never change the system by themselves but they will be kicked out and new opportunities and new possibilities will emerge.

It is all about the people. We will win and the Establishment are going to have to change. The reason UKIP has such support is because the people - the mocked, let down, ignored people - have withdrawn their support from the Oxbridge elite political class. They have let the people down and people want change.

No need to be worried. A better future is around the corner.

I'm leaving this conversation, I should know better than to get sucked in.

'He's an idiot'

Mutton, you have to be serious. He has singlehandely shaken the entire Establishment. He has won the support of millions of people. He is the politician with the highest approval rating in Britain and the Times named him 'Briton of the Year'.

He is remarkable and no one else could have done it. He has transformed politics and shaken the entire Oxbridge class who have mocked and smeared him and promoted their "comedians" and luvvies to try and knock him down.

However, he does not have a detailed grasp of all the issues etc because he is not like one of the usual politicians. But that doesn't matter. We have civil servants, think tanks, teenagers from Oxbridge to come up with detailed plans. Farage has the vision, he has the common touch, he feels what the people want. That is enough.

'he can't grasps the basics, so my business, and all my employees would be redundant'

Farage spent 20 years in business. All the MEPs are the same. UKIP is about ordinary people, workers, business owners etc. They are not like Labour and Conservative where many of the Establishment spotted, picked, selected, elected, promoted and advanced Oxbridge PPEs have never had a real job in their lives.

He worked in the city trading commodities, that's not business ffs!

It's gambling basically, no qualifications required.

But at least he had a real job unlike so many of the Oxbridge elect and select who have doors held open for them abd carpets rolled out for them to advance to the top to serve the Establishment without ever having worked in a real job with ordinary people.

No, you don't get to say one thing and then back down.

You said he was in business, he wasn't!

Admit it, and apologise, and explain how he understands business.

'no qualifications required'

What qualifications has Miliband got apart from academic?

The qualification required is to make enough sense and put a good enough case to convince the people in a democratic election. It is the people's choice. The country has thousands of policy wonks and advisers. What it needs are people with vision and people who respect and listen to the people.

Please

He is a privately educated commodities trader ffs.
Man of the people?
Don't be ridiculous!
Ukip = bnp in blazers....exactly.

What qualifications are there except from academic?

I'd like clever people to run the country, what would you like?

City commodity traders ordinary people?

I have heard him say he was in business which is why I said it. I don't know his full CV so I don't know whether he ran a tuck shop on the side or not. But yes, I admit that as far as i know he worked in business rather than ran a business, but I am not sure because I don't know his CV.

Why the attitude towards people with academic qualifications?
Ukip seems to flout it's pride in ignorance

So he lied to you and you're still supporting him?

1930's Germany would have loved you!

'What qualifications are there except from academic?'

Performance in a real role in a real job, running a business organisation etc for a start. To me that is more important than getting a First in Anthropology from Cambridge.