Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

[claig]

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

Could you try and explain it to me one last time?

"Farage: We are not constrained by Political Correctness"

Because politically incorrect is not about insulting people and being rude to them, that has nothing to do with it. Insulting people and ignoring them is what the Establishment do, UKIP are anti-establishment, they are the opposite of them, they are the People's Army.

American Newsweek trying to understand the Farage phenomenon which opposes the Establishment Oxbridge political class and represents the ordinary person, the man in the street, the man in the pub against all the great and the good, the high and the mighty, the Oxbridge and the metropolitan, the politically correct preachers.

"Nigel Farage has humiliated the British political class. By topping the poll in the European elections, the leader of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) has placed himself at the head of a huge popular uprising."
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In any English pub, there will be drinkers who say the country is being betrayed by its greedy and treacherous politicians. This is precisely the line taken by Farage. With wit and spontaneity, he expresses the anger of the man in the pub who feels ordinary people have been ignored and taken for granted for many years.
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The political establishment observed with alarm that Farage was on course to triumph in these elections and made great efforts to destroy him. His outspoken hostility to unrestricted immigration from the European Union was condemned as racism. When he said he would feel “concerned” if a group of Romanian men moved in next door to him, Farage was thought by some to have wrecked his chances. They were mistaken. The more mainstream politicians condemned Farage, the more he was seen by the man in the pub as a champion of free speech who would break through the blanket of political correctness that was being used to stifle debate on difficult subjects such as immigration."

www.newsweek.com/2014/06/06/man-pub-254370.html

'break through the blanket of political correctness that was being used to stifle debate'

Political correctness is a control mechanism, it is used by the elite to define the boundaries of debate. It is what "you are not allowed to say" by the Establishment. It is the cosy consensus and brainwashing that led to the people not dating to say that the emperor had no clothes, not daring to the tell the truth.

Farage is the boy who has the courage to say the emperor has no clothes,to say the spinners are lying, to say the"EU has blood on its hands over Ukraine".

The Establishment great and the good with their Establishment Oxbridge pedigree all howl him down, "how dare he say that about the EU", but the people are with Farage and they are laughing at the emperor who has no clothes.

I'm still waiting to hear what debate has been stifled by political correctness. The only one you've mentioned is man made climate change, and I pointed out that the 3% of the science community who don't believe in man made climate change and their supporters never seem to shut up about it. No sign of them being stifled. What else?

Nearly everything. The People's Army opposes teh consensus on minimum alcohol pricing, turning off our street lights, thinking about telling us not to smoke in parks, ring-fenced foreign aid, and lots more of the Establishment's policies that the Establishment implement through their Oxbridge political class.

Farage said it, that is why millions support him

"I think the people see us as actually standing up and saying what we think, not being constrained or scared by political correctness"

That's why the Establishment political class call UKIP "fruitcakes" and "loonies" because we dare to oppose their consensus.

So are you saying that there is no debate on any of those subjects?

The 'political correctness' that Claig is talking of is referring to those subjects where, until recently, all discussion had effectively been shut fins. You will gave seen this at the last election when Gordon Brown accused the Gillian woman of being a bigot because she dared to tell him that she had noticed an in erase in immigrants from Eastern Euriope.

apolitical correctness gas been used in an attempt to stifle debate that the main parties do not sushi to engage in, because they gave no effective policies in that area, of because the majority if the electorate disagree with the policy, or because the Govt couldn't even formulate an acceptable policy if it wanted to as it's hands are tied by other factors I,e. ECHR, EU etc. so the response to these issues is to ensure that they are not discussed. hence any attempted discussion on immigration would result in accusations of "fascist". Which it still gets from some of the he enlightened dinosaurs on here

so we have the child abuse situations caused by grooming gangs where local authorities and Police turned a blind eye fir fear if upsetting the local ethnic communities. That us a firm of political correctness.

And we have had an admission of the use of political correctness to stifle debate from John Humphries of BBC Radio 4' who stated that the BBC were biased towards the EU, so those who were anti EU did not get their voice heard. Last week he admitted that the BBC preferred to ignore the immigration issue.

and so it goes on. .

there is no free speech in the country. too many people are too scared to even attempt to discuss the serious issues of the day for fear of being accessed of racism, homophobia, islsmaphobia. debate us closed fins and governments are nit held to scrutiny

so we continue to turn a blind eye to these important uses yes which should be discussed as many define the sort if country we wish to live in. But while if us politically incorrect to do so we just have to sit by and watch while the Uks population increases by 260,000 per year, by stealth and without consent and we are forced to adopt law that us made in Brussels

The People's Army is so opposed to consensus they oppose consensus agreed upon within their own party.

Yep, I agree with you that they aren't one for political correctness.

They do seem a bit guilty of having a party establishment which makes decisions and imposes them on the rest of the party though...

Noting how that one was conveniently ignored claig. I await the imaginatively written retort with patience

On a side note, I was kind of struggling listening to Farage on Monday chuckle on about his cancer and his own sense of mortality whilst happily puffing away on a cigarette at the same time. I'm trying to work out if it was staged to appeal to a certain type of voter, he's trying to be stupidly rebellious or he's simply an even bigger twat than I'd previously thought.

"there is no free speech in the country. too many people are too scared to even attempt to discuss the serious issues of the day for fear of being accessed of racism, homophobia, islsmaphobia."

Except, as I pointed out, the Mail has 2million-ish readers, and prints homophobic and xenophobic shit all the time, and also has the political establishment dancing to its tune. Because they know if they step out of line there'll be some 'Red Ed's Dead Dad' ad hominem attack on them.

How does that tally with your perception that people are afraid to discuss these issues?

None at all. Just watch the Daily Politics eveyday. All the spinners from all the parties are in agreement. No one challenges them, no one gives a voice to ordinary people. You can't "put a fag paper between them", they "are all the same", they "are all in it together". The decisions are made form the top of the parties, from the Oxbridge PPEs and in all parties the PPEs agree with each other because they are the same metropolitan elite Oxbridge class.

They use political correctness to enforce the consensus and to prevent free and frank discussion. Nobody represents the people, they all represent the Establishment.

"ordinary people have been ignored and taken for granted for many years."

The People's Army are the anti-establishment, anti-politically correct party, they are the people's party, the "common sense" party, challenging the Oxbridge Establishment's politically correct "nonsense" and all their spin and bullshit is coming to an end.

Labour know it and they are panicking "their tanks are digging up my lawn". The People's Army is on the move, it is mocking them, knocking on doors and being greeted with jubilation nby the long suffering people, so long insulted and ignored, in all of their backyards. Their MPs are phoning up HQ and begging the Oxbridge PPEs to listen to what is happening on the ground. And the PPEs have listened and come up with the following spin to try and steal UKIP's "common sense" clothes, as they try to fool and spin the people one last desperate time.

"It describes immigration as a “complex issue” but adds that Labour Party policies “tend to be accepted as common sense” once they are explained."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/campaigning-against-ukip-leaked-strategy-document-warns-labour-not-to-talk-about-immigration-9924644.html

But the people just laugh when they hear Labour policies described as "common sense". Politically correct? Yes, common sense, no way.

The People's Army is the people's party, the common sense party for the common people and we are laughing at the politically correct metropolitan elite as they try to pretend they are "one of us"

The Pulp lyrics for Common People almost express how the People's Army is laughing at them

"Sing along with the common people
Sing along and it might just get you through
Laugh along with the common people
Laugh along even though they're laughin' at you"

"They use political correctness to enforce the consensus and to prevent free and frank discussion."

HOW?????????? WHEN?????? WHERE???????

'They do seem a bit guilty of having a party establishment which makes decisions and imposes them on the rest of the party though...'

Yes because there is a battle for survival of the soul of the party. The Establishment have their people in the thick of it trying to put an end to it. They want the people to have no choice but to go back and vote for PPEs.

"he's trying to be stupidly rebellious or he's simply an even bigger twat than I'd previously thought."

No, Farage is just like the people. He will not be scared by death or scared by political correctness from saying what he thinks. As he said

"I think the people see us as actually standing up and saying what we think, not being constrained or scared by political correctness."

Farage will not let adversity stop him having the pleasure of drinking and smoking and laughing and defying the Establishment and its political class. He is like the people, he opposes the Establishment's attempts to stop the people's small pleasures by banning us smoking in parks or stopping us buying 2 for 1s.

"Except, as I pointed out, the Mail has 2million-ish readers, ... and also has the political establishment dancing to its tune."

Yes, the Mail is the only voice that represents the silent majority too. And the Mail, if it feels like it, can set the agenda and scare the wits out of the PPEs. But the PPEs only pretend they listen to the Mail, they only pretend they listen to the people, they only pretend they will "cut the green crap", they only pretnd they have heard us. The reason is that they are not really in charge, the Establishment is and the Establishment decides what is done. They wish the Mail would shut up and go away because they can't change anything anyway, they're all the same.

And the Mail is not a political party and it supports the Tories but just wants them to change to become more populist. It doesn't like Cameron and the modernisers, just as much as its readers don't, but it still wants them to win and Farage to lose.

There is only one party that represents the silent majority, the ignored, insulted millions and that is the People's Army. The Mail is against it.

Hakluyt

I explained HOW, WHEN WHERE,, or rather John Humphries explained when he said the BBC had deleiberately stifled debate.

It would be useful if you could actually read the posts instead of asking for information that has already been posted and pooh-poohing everything that you disagree with. That too is a form pf political correctness as it is obviously designed to try to shut down thsi particular debate.

In adfition to Humphries I gave you several other examples of how debate was shutdown and by whom and over what issues.

People who prefer to jeer at others from the sidelines are not really adding much to the discussion here.

"Nigel Farage and UKIP represent a "two fingers stuck up... to a hectoring, out-of-touch elite," a Liberal Democrat MP has claimed."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27532310

That is what it is all about and Farage never expected to have this phenomenal success where the PPEs are trembling in their metropolitan drinking dens at reports of the devastation that the People's Army are causing in their once safe-seats.

The reason that Farage is having such success is that he represents what the people feel, they have had enough, they want change, they are sticking "two fingers up" to this politically correct Oxbridge metropolitan elite class who ignore them and despise them. OOKIP woman told them "the other lot can all go and stuff themselves". The people are laughing, the common people have had enough.

"This is perhaps Nigel Farage’s most potent line of attack: that the liberal, metropolitan elites who hate ordinary Brits and employ foreign nannies have stitched up the political system, rigged the economy in their favour, ripped off their parliamentary expenses and are laughing at us all behind our backs. The elite in Westminster are allied with the fat quangocrats, the multi-national corporations and the smug “comedians” on Radio 4 whose idea of a joke is to say “Daily Mail” a lot in relation to things of which they disapprove. If you don’t have time for that exposition, just look at a politician who drinks pints and smokes fags - what could be less Islington?

It is a powerful pitch both because it is, to some extent, true and because it speaks to the gut instincts of a lot of people"

www.conservativehome.com/highlights/2014/12/the-five-tribes-of-ukip.html

Yes because there is a battle for survival of the soul of the party.

So UKIP leadership are allowed to do this. However if other parties do it, its a bad thing.

Keep trying with the answers to everything.

So do all people who vote for UKIP not believe in man made climate change?

The Establishment refuse to listen to the people because they know we disagree with them. For years they refused to give us an EU referendum, they refused to discuss immigration and said it was racist to bring it up, they all agree on climate change and anyone who disagrees is a "flat-earther" and a "fruitcake". Anyone who supports UKIP and disagrees with them on nearly everything is called a "fruitcake", a "loony" and even a "closet racist".

They know we nearly all disagree with them and that is why they don't give us a PR voting system, local democracy, direct democracy and local referenda. UKIP is going to change all of that and give power back to the people and take it out of the hands of the puppet class that serves the Establishment and not the people.

"Many said they were attracted by the idea of empowering local democracy, and taking back power from Westminster and “the elites”."

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/meet-ukip-peoples-army-who-4665996

It's about democracy, freedom, breaking through the Oxbridge Overton window and opening up every topic for debate without being called a "fruitcake" for daring to disagree with our betters, with the great and the good, it's about sovereignty and self-determination and representation, it's about the people and not the elite.

'So do all people who vote for UKIP not believe in man made climate change?'

Not all of them, but a huge number of them. UKIP is going to scrap the Climate Change Act abolish Department of Energy and Climate Change. Can you imagine the panic in puppet circles and the anger of the elite.

"So UKIP leadership are allowed to do this. However if other parties do it, its a bad thing."

Didn't you listen to UKIP Parliamentary candidate, Winston McKenzie when he said UKIP are not like the other parties? UKIP is the People's Party, it is doing it for the people. UKIP is being challenged by the elite. The press keep telling us of leadership challenges to Farage. They want someone like Carswell to lead the party instead.

The people are with Farage, they hope he manages to save the People's ship and stop the Establishment siren voices leading it to be wrecked.

"UKIP is going to scrap the Climate Change Act abolish Department of Energy and Climate Change. Can you imagine the panic in puppet circles and the anger of the elite."

The polar bears are going to be a bit pissed off too.........