Oxford University denies that UKIP candidate Natasha Bolter ever attended Oxford

[claig]

"Natasha Bolter: Oxford University deny sex scandal Ukip candidate ever attended"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11285916/Natasha-Bolter-Oxford-University-deny-sex-scandal-Ukip-candidate-ever-attended.html

Roger Bird, who is a PPE, introduced Natasha Bolter as having defected from Labour and being a PPE too.

I saw her interviewed on BBC Newsnight last night, and I did begin to wonder about Oxford and PPEs. I'm not a big fan of PPEs at the best of times, but Gordon Bennett, I thought to myself.

What's going on?

Would that be why I said (around lunch time today), that, contrary to your delusions of persecution, 2m people read the Mail... and that turning off streetlights was a gift for the party in opposition on your local council...?

It's like you're not listening at all - and that will get your arse kicked in local or national politics.

Biggest landslide? Mmm. Talk to me in June.

So you don't know the details - but you're prepared to to vote for something you don't know how will work or how much it will cost or even if it will work.... But you'll vote for it. Bizarre.

I'd quite happily vote no to street lighting.

The lighting on my street comes out of a service charge for the estate (new build estate not adopted by the council so we pay maintenance privately for the road and lighting) so I am effectively paying for other people's lighting with my taxes anyway. Not that I'm bothered about the lighting. The first two years we were here there was no lighting and I hated it when they switched them on, as its so intrusive. It was much nicer when it was dark.

'but you're prepared to to vote for something you don't know how will work or how much it will cost or even if it will work.... But you'll vote for it'

Of course I will as will millions of other. We will see how it works out.
It is the same as when we vote Conservative to fix the economy, we don't know if they will manage it, we make the decision based on confidence and trust. I trust UKIP to know what they are doing.

"I'd quite happily vote no to street lighting."

That is the great thing about democracy, people can vote for what they want.

You trust a party that makes such a complete hash of the candidate selection process for ONE constituency and has trouble finding any who aren't fruit loops by their own admission.

Ok then.

Each to their deluded own.

"You trust a party that makes such a complete hash of the candidate selection"

They are probably being set up, sabotaged and all sorts. The Establishment is probably in the thick of it etc.

kim147

They are probably being set up, sabotaged and all sorts. The Establishment is probably in the thick of it etc.

Please see my comment from 11:28:32 this morning...

claig you have a habit of saying that when you've exhausted all other possible arguments and can't actually articulate a decent comeback. Mainly because they isn't actually a defence for that level of incompetent even against the most diehard.

The UKIP leadership's act on the will of the 'People's Army'

UKIP accept European Funding.

Gerrard Batten, one of London's MEPs, told Newsnight the party staged an internal referendum on the issue three years ago - and rejected the idea of taking EU cash by establishing a new pan-European party.

He said: "I'm not interested in being part of a European political party. The members of UKIP weren't asked. There's been no consultation.

"We had a referendum last time which was expensive. I can't think of any arguments that would make me want to join. I think the feeling among the activists is that they won't be in favour of it."

And Tim Congdon, who led the opposition during the 2011 internal UKIP vote on joining a European political party, said: "In 2011 UKIP held a big internal debate on the issue. The party membership voted two to one against UKIP's affiliation to a PEPP.

"That was the clear and unambiguous democratic verdict of the party membership after a big debate extending over several months. I am much saddened that the leadership should now have decided to ignore and overrule the clearly expressed view of the party membership."

Hmm

Claig is on a wind-up. And manages to maintain it pretty impressively. Although the repetition of key phrases-tearing up lawns etc-does get tedious.

UKIP taking designated funding for 'EU integration' is a hypocritical disgrace, justified by MEP Roger whats-his-face by a 'if we don't take the money, another party (taking the money to support what we are against), will'.

But there is a big picture here, donors who wanted to shape UKIP's policies, and have done, are now be rejected by habitual 'user' Farage, similar to targeted voters really.

Power corrupts and the UKIP 'peasants pluckers'are revolting, as Nick Robertson explains;

"UKIP - power struggle, not soap opera."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30476383

I think someone asked fawn thread whether 'peasant' was an acceptable term. I think you've just answered that question Isitmebut

Anyway, what the BBC haven't told you today is

The UK was fined £50 million by the EU fir failing to levy the correct import duties on garlic we imported from China.

The Greeks go to the polls tomorrow and EU boss Juncjers has told them he would like to see them elect 'familiar faces' I.e. Ex EU commissioners. Unfortunately for Junckers the Greeks look likely to elect an anti EU left wing Party with some Marxist ideology and which Sats it will not adhere to austerity. Should be interesting

The new EU fudging quotas are less beneficial to the UK so our last remaining fisherfolk are not happy.

Meanwhile Hezza thinks we will eventually join the Euro. Some people never admit they've been wrong

"Nigel Farage must ditch Neil Hamilton or Ukip will be destroyed

Peter Oborne says the Ukip leader now faces a choice over the former Conservative MP that will decide Ukip's fate

There is no question that Nigel Farage is the politician of 2014. He has achieved wonders. He has taken Ukip from a tiny party with negligible support in the polls to a veritable political phenomenon; Ukip now stands at around 15 per cent in the polls, against 3 per cent when Farage took over. It has won two stunning by-election victories, came first in the European elections in May and has changed the nature of political debate in Britain.

Mr Farage has forced the Conservatives to back a referendum, turned immigration into a vital issue for all the main parties, and given a voice to vast swathes of people who were previously ignored by the main political parties. Furthermore, Mr Farage has done all of this without the support of the mainstream media. Indeed no newspaper has yet backed his cause.
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He needs to tell Wheeler to get lost, and make clear that Neil Hamilton has no future inside UKIP. His current position as the UKIP deputy chairman and any thought of him being selected as a parliamentary candidate are completely untenable. If Farage does not show strength on this matter he risks throwing away all his remarkable achievements"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11297582/Nigel-Farage-must-ditch-Neil-Hamilton-or-Ukip-will-be-destroyed.html

There are probably lots of plots going on within UKIP. I think Louise Mensch's twitter account often has its finger on the pulse in knowing what may happen. She likes Carswell and doesn't like Farage "the politician of 2014" much as far as I can tell. I always felt that the Establishment would like Carswell to take over teh leadership somehow. If he does, then it is the end of UKIP, it will be politically correct and it will all be over.

"I think someone asked fawn thread whether 'peasant' was an acceptable term. I think you've just answered that question Isitmebut"

I don't think they were. I think they were being amused that a UKIP- sorry OOKIP prospective candidate would talk about organising a "peasant shoot" through Chigwell.......

The media keep telling us that Farage may not win in South Thanet and that then he will probably no longer be leader. If they are right, which I doubt, then it is bad news for UKIP.

Don't worry- there'll be another posh boy along to be leader if Farage goes.......

There is no one like Farage. He is not politically correct and has the courage of his convictions and is popular with the people. Paul Nuttall is very good, David Coburn is very good, but Farage is the one that puts the heebie jeebies up the Establishment parties.

Claig. Carswell was really good on the Daily Politics today. He told Hezza where to go.

Farage will probably lose at the GE. A party has no long term future if it just has one key player. I expect there is a lot more talent within UKIP that we will see when the spotlight moves away from Farage.

Interestingly the opinion polls show that if an IN OUT vote was held today the nation would vote OUT

My mistake, have just read Lousie Mensch's blog, she doesn't like Carswell.

Is it worth asking again what "politically correct" means to you?

Yes he was good against Hezza, kept calling him Establishment.

The reason farage os so brilliant is that he is in tune with teh public to an extraordinary degree. That is a gift. Carswell hasn't got it, the public would just be turn away. Leadership is important. Look at Miliband, he is a nice guy but the people don't see him as a leader.

The Establishment want Farage out then they will have an easy ride. I think they will have moles in UKIP plotting to bring him down and make UKIOP politically correct just like all teh other parties and then it will lose its appeal as a real opposition to the TweedleDee and TweedleDum parties.

'Interestingly the opinion polls show that if an IN OUT vote was held today the nation would vote OUT'

The trouble is with all the pressure and scare tactics and media trying to destroy UKIP, I don't think a referendum would be won just yet.

'Is it worth asking again what "politically correct" means to you?'

No, we've established that you don't understand it and that explains why you don't understand the UKIP phenomenon and why they are the opposition to the Establishment parties.