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I want to scream - the sentences should have meant death

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UCM · 29/04/2006 21:37

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4953362.stm

I am speechless. Sorry but imagine your 16 year old daughter/neice/friend

Nah, they shoulda been exececuted.

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UCM · 29/04/2006 22:09

Wow!!!!!

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JoolsToo · 29/04/2006 22:09

I like that idea Greensleeves!

sweetkitty · 29/04/2006 22:10

They are totally evil and should be locked up for the remainder of their lives and not in some cushy prison with the internet, TV, DVDs, gym, food and heating etc that a lot of decent people who don't commit crimes don't have. They should be made to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week with any proceeds going to support families of the victims.

HappyMumof2 · 29/04/2006 22:10

UCM - you are getting very wound up over this.

It's pointless going over and over it. Mary Anne's mother appears to be pleased with the sentances so it's pointless asking what people would say to her.

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UCM · 29/04/2006 22:11

Sod off Cod, I am displaying an anger because of the belief in this country that people get what they deserve through the courts.

They don't.

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expatinscotland · 29/04/2006 22:12

I agree, GS. The ban on smoking the workplace in Scotland does not cover prisons. Why? B/c the prison is a residence. It's also the only source of work in many of hte small towns in which these prisons are located. So the prisoners who CHOSE to make this their home by breaking the law get to ruin the health of law-abiding people working for a living in what's likely one of the few employers in their area?

Yeah, that makes sense. NOT!

ScummyMummy · 29/04/2006 22:12

If mary-Ann's mum came on here and said that i would say that i'm not surprised she feels that way.

But I would still think it is right that the law doesn't use her overwhelming grief and pain as justification for execution.

HappyMumof2 · 29/04/2006 22:13

but they have got what they deserved. They are going to be locked up for the next 27 years.

Prison is not as cushy as some may think. In some they are locked up for 23 hours a day.

They are having to live with what they have done. That is the best punishment imo. And thinking of all the things they are missing.

They are going to be in their late 40 by the time they (possibly) get out.

spacedonkey · 29/04/2006 22:13

hear hear scummy

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UCM · 29/04/2006 22:13

I just feel so very sorry for all of us who have small children, who are for whatever reason going to, in their lives, become associated with some scum, it could be my son, your daughter, whatever.

It scares the shit outta me for obvious reasons. I can't make my sons life perfect and it really really scares me......

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starlover · 29/04/2006 22:14

yeah, in YOUR opinion UCM! you can't get angry just because we don't all agree with you

Caligula · 29/04/2006 22:14

But we can't have a justice system which is based on the feelings of the families of the victims of crime. That's the sign of an undeveloped society imo. Western developed capitalism could simply not have happened without a justice system which guaranteed social stablility because it banned tribal justice and made the dispensing of it the business of the state, not the families of the victims of criminality.

HappyMumof2 · 29/04/2006 22:14

UCM - what if your son was accused of a crime like this and pleaded not guilty. Would you be happy for the death penalty to be used then?

Socci · 29/04/2006 22:15

Nobody deserves to be crucified on a barbed wire cross UCM - how can you think that is the right thing to do?? If that happened here I wouldn't feel that justice had been done - I would feel sick that I lived in a country that endorses medieval brutality.

expatinscotland · 29/04/2006 22:15

See, to me, HappyMum, that's a miscarriage of justice.

We all know a 40-something person is just as capable of doing what was done to Mary Anne as a 19-year-old.

So what if they are locked up in a cell 23 hours a day? Mary Anne is in a far smaller coffin in the dark forever.

mumfor1standfinaltime · 29/04/2006 22:16

Nonsense.
These people are not human beings. They are worthless. What is the point in wasting tens of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money keeping these filthy excuses for human beings alive, warm, fed and looked after. Someone who has commited an act like this cannot be reformed! Next we'll be trying to get 'poor old Ian Brady out because he's served his time bless 'im' Angry Its about time people were punished accordingly. Death is the only option I can think of that fits the bill for these people. I'd happily pay extra taxes for these 'people' to be wiped out. (mumfor1standfinaltime's DH)

HappyMumof2 · 29/04/2006 22:16

Mary Ann is free from her pain and suffering.

They have to think and live with what they have done locked in their little room.

Greensleeves · 29/04/2006 22:17

I hope neither of my sons ever ends up in court in front of a bunch of amoral, money-grabbing lawyers, a tipsy geriatric judge and a jury with an average IQ of 84, being wrongly convicted of a crime in a society in which people like you have succeeded in bringing back hanging.

cod · 29/04/2006 22:17

the poepl of this country dont know SOD all abotu the courts ucm
talk a chill pill fgs

cod · 29/04/2006 22:17

and greensleeevs
if oyu feel so strongly about it become a Jp and find out how complicate it is in real life
life is NOT black and white

Socci · 29/04/2006 22:17

well said Caligula

Greensleeves · 29/04/2006 22:19

don't really feel up to it cod... maybe when I'm older.

But I don't think my opinions are invalid because my experiences differ from yours. Not all JPs favour capital punishment.

cod · 29/04/2006 22:19

no sorry lashed out
apoligise
ucm cleaerly barking

cod · 29/04/2006 22:19

ill sned oyu a fish whack if you need one

HappyMumof2 · 29/04/2006 22:20

lol