Justin Lee Collins

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It just goes to show that you can't spot an abusive twat easily. Who'd have guessed?

story, sorry, Torygraph

Instead of being an abusive prick why didn't he treat her with the respect she deserved?

Pan i agree with you. That sentence IS wildly inappropriate and in no way is it enough for what he did to her.
I reckon the ex is going to see a reduction in child support anyway because according to what i heard on the news hes also got to pay a 3 and a half grand fine.

I'm not sure it will have a massive impact on his finances. You know these comedians can make a joke out of anything . Look how he's laughing his socks off www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215106/Justin-Lee-Collins-Comedian-guilty-harassing-partner-Anna-Larke.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DKeith%2BGladdis&videoPlayerURL=http%3A%2F%2Fc.brightcove.com%2Fservices%2Fviewer%2Ffederated_f9%3FisVid%3D1%26isUI%3D1%26publisherID%3D1418450360%26playerID%3D72484359001%26domain%3Dembed%26videoId%3D&hasBCVideo=true&BCVideoID=1889005457001

'Instead of recording his foul ranting why didn't she just leave him? '

Can I suggest you look on the Relationships board and do some reading about the dynamics of abusive relationships ? It would be tragic if a friend or family member in an abusive relationship came to you for support and help and that was your response to them.

It's foul isn't it to see him laughing outside after the verdict like that. Also the judge said he felt the whole episode had been out of character for JLC - so that kind of exonerates him. JLC will be able to talk to the press in a few months/have a book about his living hell, coping with depression. marriage breakdown etc that led him to do this "out of character thing"- perhaps all will be forgiven.

Womens Abuse charities have slammed the verdict. If Anna hadn't recorded the conversation she wouldn't have got very far I think.

Was his x wife his only character reference then? He left her for Anna I understand last year.

I wonder how she felt when he left her and the children for Anna, and if these feelings had any bearing on her giving him a good reference.

Can't help but think a character reference coming from her is unreliable when you imagine the complicated feelings she probably was going through, PLUS the pressure of HIS expectations on her to put him in a good light in court.

He's been found to be an emotionally abusive and controlling man to Anna. What's not to say he's not emotionally controlling his x wife - still. She might not be that aware of it if she's still in it. She's probably still hurting if he left her last year for another woman, and to some extent vulnerable and maybe still under his spell.

If she's still under his spell, that would be more reason not to have her in court giving him a character reference.

feeling So he'd face justice? Or maybe just for the fun of it

As for "just leave him"? Excuse me while I sit over here laughing and rocking

They were not in a long-term relationship. They did not have children. She could have walked out. I can understand how a woman can become a prisoner of an emotionally abusive partner but it takes time and JLC and AL were not together long enough for that to happen.

"JLC and AL were not together long enough for that to happen."

How long does it take?

she did leave. Are you trying to say that a short abusive relationship isn't the same as a long one? Isn't that a little confused?

Anyway they were together for a long time, just not (according to him) in a sexual relationship. It was only when the relationship became sexual that he became abusive. This is quite often what happens you know.

I was with a guy for 6 months and it got to this stage. Then I left him. If I'd have stayed you'd be wondering why I didn't leave, yet if I left it's not long enough for it to get to that level? So how do abusive relationships happen then? Are you trying to deny that they exist?

"JLC and AL were not together long enough for that to happen."

Hahahaha.. oh god you're serious aren't you? My ex got like this within 3 months, it took me over a year to escape. But maybe I should bow to your superior knowledge.

For me it happened within weeks, slowly creeping up. In fact the first bit of jealousy and punishing me for talking to other men was before we even got together!

Feeling. Im sure you mean well but you're incredibly ignorant on this subject.

I think its really lucky she filmed him. He was making a good effort there to discredit her and it might have worked otherwise. Its important these things are recorded, so it can help get convictions, so the message goes out that its not acceptable, so that other women are warned about him and those like him.

I must admit i did wonder who was lying (hadn't really been following the story) but having read what he was recorded saying to her its shocking!

Why are you focussing on her perfectly acceptable, defensive behaviour rather than his appalling, abusive behaviour feelingawfullylow? Why are you not berating him for treating her badly? Why are you not asking why he didn't stop his behaviour?

As an aside, it only takes one incident for someone to feel trapped in a relationship.

So what sentence did he get? (sorry haven't read whole thread)

fuck, disappointingly he only got community service and ordered to pay £3.5k towards the prosecutions legal costs

How much community service? At least its humiliating i suppose but not necessarily what you would expect for the crime.

It goes without saying that he is foul and acted appallingly. She had her wits about her enough to tape his rants, so why was she too helpless to leave?

"She had her wits about her enough to tape his rants, so why was she too helpless to leave?"

The word you were missing from your description of him was "manipulative". HTH.

I just hope I don't see either of them flogging their stories to the press anytime soon. I wonder what he was like with the other women he was having affairs with?

she's already touting hers around

Yes, manipulative men make you doubt yourself and and have you believe it's your fault - if only you could do a bit better. Eventually when the penny drops you might be able to do something about it and get out - but as we know it's a process, and some victims of emotional and physical abuse never get out.

Maybe taping it was as much for herself as anything - to convince herself he was in the wrong and that she didn't deserve it - to have the evidence there in her hand.

Goes to show people are not as what they seem!
He should be ashamed