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We Believe You - continued

419 replies

Frontpaw · 01/05/2012 16:58

The old thread was full. It was the first of a few I think.

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Modan · 02/05/2012 15:37

I received the same bland repsonse from rory Belcher. I have written back to point out his apology was not for the comments but for causing offence.

I just feel I cannot let this one drop, this feels like a watershed moment and I hope so much all this public support for this woman makes a difference.

MammaBrussels · 02/05/2012 16:58

I've just sent the following to Rory Belcher:

Dear Mr Belcher

As far as I am aware Mr Elvish has only apologised for any offence that he has caused not for his remarks. The two are NOT the same. He is clearly unfit for political office.

Yours sincerely

MammaBrussels

I can't believe the Liberal Democrats aren't taking this more seriously. He should not be standing for election.

AppleHEAD · 02/05/2012 17:05

I believe her and I hope she stays strong and takes comfort from the fact that everyone with any sense does too.

Vickiw1 · 02/05/2012 17:22

Think its about time Facebook stopped giving airspace to people who support violence against women and girls. They are directly feeding a culture that leads to only 1 rape in 10 being actually reported because of fear that the victim will be harrassed and repeat attacked and villified on line and in real life. If a woman is too drunk to stand up, then she is too drunk to run away from an aggressor - just as she would be too drunk to fight off a mugger. As a society we have to stand up for people's freedom to enjoy a night out unmolested, not for a rapist to rape or steal with impunity.

wisecamel · 02/05/2012 18:15

I believe her

TwllBach · 02/05/2012 18:20

A lot of posters on here are so eloquent. They are articulating a lot of things that I wouldn't even begin to know how to say so fantastically to the point.

I was attacked and raped (technically) when I was 17. I was drunk and on my own in a cab and I didn't go to the police. A huge part of the reason why I didn't was because I was very drunk and had been seen missing a number of different boys that evening and so I wouldn't look like what society want to see in terms of a victim IYSWIM.

This girl has been very brave and is being, as a PP has said already, raped all over again. This time not by the justice system but by members of the public. To hear that members of political parties are making disgusting comments as well is just the icing on a very sickening cake.

I've said it before, but I'm saying it again:

I believe her.

banditqueen · 02/05/2012 18:22

I believe her

redshoes · 02/05/2012 18:23

I believe her

InmaculadaConcepcion · 02/05/2012 18:32

So sorry about your experience TwllBach Sad

Sonotkylie · 02/05/2012 18:57

AJsDaddy ... That AJ is a lucky lad. Well said

muminthecity · 02/05/2012 19:32

I believe her. The judge and jury believe her. According to the petition, over 16,000 people believe her.

wicketter · 02/05/2012 19:42

it doesn't matter how drunk you are, rape is still rape. that poor girl has suffered enough. i am just wondering if all sides should just let it go. its not our arguement and although i am sure she appreciates the support 1/ we are fuelling arguements from the twats and 2/ she should be allowed to move on. she needs to be able to recover in peace. and just to be clear i completely believe her!

Southsearocks · 02/05/2012 20:25

I believe her too.

happyhev · 02/05/2012 20:30

I believe her too.

Snapespeare · 02/05/2012 20:38

Thank you for being brave. I believe you.

Lorelilee · 02/05/2012 20:38

I believe her. Because she was telling the truth.

BitchyHen · 02/05/2012 20:42

I believe her.

geekette · 02/05/2012 20:49

I had a message for savanna earlier on which was eaten by my phone. grr.

savanna, you woke up to find the last person you had been chatting to on top of you.

You did not wake up to that person, some other random bloke you don't know and two other voyeurs.

Can you tell the difference?

By the way I withhold my opinion on the guy who had sex with you whilst you were in and out of consciousness.

Generally, my current thoughts are: Guys know when they want to have sex. Great for them. It is NEVER up to the guy to decide when a woman wants to have sex. Just like he has the right to know when he wants sex, she also has the right to that decision. Once he makes this decision on her behalf and acts on it, there is a question of rape. Well, it is not a question in my mind.

Replace guy and woman depending on the sexuality of the partners as you see fit.

Ghanagirl · 02/05/2012 21:00

Poor baby, she's just a little girl I believe you get better get strong

iheartdusty · 02/05/2012 21:04

I believe her.

She did not consent. That is that. Being drunk, getting into taxis, talking to footballers - none of those things constitute consent to sex.

LavenderCakes · 02/05/2012 21:14

I believe her.

I hope she feels the support that she's getting from all sane people and ignores those who are standing up for a convicted rapist. I can't even imagine that at 19 I would have been so brave to go through a trial, see this reaction, and not crumble. I hope she understands that so many of us are rooting for her and believe she WILL GET THROUGH THIS.

Also have emailed LibDems. It's heartbreaking.

Oblomov · 02/05/2012 21:16

I believe her.
How can anyone not?
The football world should be so very ashamed.

ohnevermind · 02/05/2012 21:24

I bellieve her.
Shame on the lib dems too.

Brianstorm · 02/05/2012 21:25

I believe her.

DoesItComeInBlack · 02/05/2012 21:57

I believe her.