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the saddest cuts, that will affect the most vulnerable

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Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 11:28

one example
on the news last night there was one person who will no loose her only contact with the outside world as the day centre she uses will close.
another will loose his phisio which will affect his life expectancy.
this is just one example of one council, but it is happening every where, it is a discrace and very short sighted as now more people will have to go into residential care, and that will cost so much more.

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JuliaScurr · 16/02/2012 11:33

We're currently fighting closure/privatisation of a day centre
Sevenfold many of us agree! Join anti-cuts groups
coalitionofresistance
falseeconomy
protests

JuliaScurr · 16/02/2012 11:35

None of those links work on my lap top Sad

SanctiMoanyArse · 16/02/2012 11:52

It's ridiculous.

As they are changing the definition of carer it looks likely i will have to work from 2013; now, I have 2 children diagnosed with ASD, one seeing the Paed for initial assessment on the 27th and there is a possibility I may be assessed as well. yesterday I was ill, Dh had to care for the boys plus work and he barely coped.

I do want to work but it will have to be part time as simply we won't manage otherwise- boys can't live off fish and chips every day! And Dh's work is the big long term investment; screwing that up would be ridiculous, just as it seems to be taking off. But between juggling 3 Sn drop offs and appointments, 1-1 supervision of the boys AND working it was.. undoable. We have no childcare access.

buy hey ho we can't afford families like mine as BIL says.

KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 12:18

This is countrywide but isnt getting media exposure as no-one seems to care about vunerable disabled people. And so far the media have done a grand job potraying us all as scroungers.

Yet soon as Carers say 'fuck this' put their kids into care and cost the taxpayer £118 billion a year those complacent 'It will never happen to me' might start bleating.

'First they came for the disabled people but I was not disabled so did not speak up....'

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 12:24

I want to work too, I had it all planned once she hit 19 and was of at college, I could work, but now the chances are there will be no funding except for the day college that will give her 1 day a week!! and I bet I will be expected to drive her there and back(it isn't local)
makes me fume and want to cry.

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KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 12:34

The only way to get mumsnetters to be interested seven is to point out some of those affected are disabled babies. Litttle squishy pretty babies (they all look the same, disabled and non disabled babies you know)

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 12:36

too true. perhaps we need to post links to disabled babies

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googlenut · 16/02/2012 12:42

What are they changing about who becomes a carer? It is so short sighted-many families are just coping and if they go into financial hardship it will be the last straw.

KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 12:47

they are changing nothing about who becomes a carer because anyone can become a Carer. Suddenly.
What they are taking away is respite centres/day centres so Carers of adult disabled people will never get a break. At least children go to school. But 19 plus you need those day centres or you are your disabled adult child are traped indoors with nowhere to go for ever. Not to mention the afect on a disabled person with nothing to do, no way to meet friends, nowhere to go outside the house and no-one to take them.

KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 12:48

Same for elderly people. No day centres means a life of loneliness trapped indoors.

googlenut · 16/02/2012 12:51

Further up the thread someone said they were changing the definition of a carer but I haven't heard this

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 12:52

the crazy thing is that after you have cared for a disabled person for 19 years, you are suddenly expected to look after them 24/7 at a time when you are least able.

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SanctiMoanyArse · 16/02/2012 12:53

My friend DID manage to combine work with caring- for fifteen years. her store closed and went internet based, only shop she could get work at wanted evenings- when her DH sometimes did shifts. her son is 18 and has GDD, Autism, and is blind. She wanted a resi place at 18, they said no as she is neitehr dying of a terminal illness not abusing him. She asked for help with care for the evenings- no chance. So no more work for her! He gets MR care as he sleeps so she will be placed on workfare unless something turns up. There is ahrdly a surfeit of childminders willing to take a boisterous 18 year old with no personal boundaries and- well I went away with them one weekend- her life seemed exhausting! She spent all the time following after him as he charged randomly about. I would struggle to care for him!

JuliaScurr · 16/02/2012 15:37

It is truly disgusting, made worse by being implemented by a govt headed by a parent of a disabled child. No, wait - a millionaire Tory parent of a disabled child. Do you think that makes a difference? Just possible

SanctiMoanyArse · 16/02/2012 17:10

My now fairly long term experience as a carer has taught me that other carers of disbaled kids come in distinct groups:

  1. The supportive ones- the people at the SN Rugby club we attended (until DS1 started refusing to leave the house Sad) and who make up the SN board here
  1. The competitive ones- the ones who want the services for their kids and stand there going 'how come your kid has a palce at tehat school, he looks OK to me, why haven't WE got it instead?'
  1. The ones who reason that as their child is more severe then you should damn well think yourself lucky and that should be enough without services. This is by far the smallest group but I presume old DC would be fairly allocated into this particular batch. Add in a measure of 'if you had worked hard enough you'd be as rich as MEEEEEEE' (whilst forgetting inheritance of course and schooling priveledge) and you get quite severe malevolence IMO.

Though why people xpected more of the Tories with DC and Ivan than Gordon brown and his son with CF I am not sure tbh.

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 18:00

he has let us all down imo, horrid man hate him.
There has to be cuts I accept that, but no way should the most vulnerable people have to have their services cuts, that should be a no no in a civilised country, there are many other ways to save money.
teh end result will be families split up.

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KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 18:03

He probably assumes everyone has a nanny stashed away somewhere.

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 18:14

the saddest thing is the lack of interest imo, mention CB cuts and heaps about it, student fee"s mass hysteria. one place closing, a stickied thread.
yet this that is going to have a devastating affect on a lot of very vulnerable people and their families and cost the tax payer a lot of money in the long term....nothing

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googlenut · 16/02/2012 18:15

Want to punch the tv every time I see him. Shame on him and his cuts to the disabled. I would have thought nobody could have a disabled child and not become compassionate to the vulnerable. He proves that you obviously can and I think betrays a massive ego which really doesnt care for anyone else except his own quest for power.
And he then has the absolute cheek to talk about Christian values. I cannot get my head around someone who can do all this.

KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 18:15

but CB cuts only affected wealthy people sevenfold. Hence the hysteria

Sevenfold · 16/02/2012 18:18

thing is he won't have had ot do the back breaking care, nor his wife.
if you have nurses and cares coming in 24/7 it probably does seem manageable. what a shame he didn't do his home work and actually talk to people who do the day to day care for their children/young people. trouble is he would then have had to listen to the poor

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KalSkirata · 16/02/2012 18:23

going out to work is a million times easier than Caring.

Glitterknickaz · 16/02/2012 18:25

Guess what?
I save this government £450,000 a year by staying at home and caring for my children.

I'm fucked if I'm paid that kind of money to do it!
Yet I'm considered a 'scrounger'. Would love to see how I'm supposed to work 20 hours a week with meeting the needs (and medical appointments, plus education meetings) of three children with disabilities.

worzelswife · 16/02/2012 18:33

"made worse by being implemented by a govt headed by a parent of a disabled child" Here here. I was so relieved in a way when he came into power because I thought the one group he would protect was the disabled. I cannot believe he can face his wife and children each night.

The shit is going to hit the fan next year, it really is. I dread to think how many vulnerable, disabled people are going to commit suicide/deteriorate physically/not have money for basic care and food. I don't think it's even possible to imagine how bad it's going to be yet.

Dillydaydreaming · 16/02/2012 18:43

I am absolutely petrified about these cuts, I have just lost my job and if I cannot find another one I am not sure how I will cope financially. I utterly hate this Govt and feel so let down by a PM who supposedly "understood". No he doesn't understand - he never did.