Great. Another baby dead as social services fuck up - WARNING, DISTRESSING

[ImFab]

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I can't bear to hear another story of a beautiful baby dead because his mother wasn't capable of caring for him and social services weren't up to the job. When will they learn?

Here.

Thankfully though the forum is anonymous. No one has any way to connect her posts with her in RL.

Don't panic Fab!

Edam - I don't think your analogy re doctors is very helpful.

Social workers seem to come in for particular flack whichever way they jump - take a child early and they are evil baby snatchers, under orders to fulfil some Government quotas - and even getting paid for so doing! I think John Hemmings seriously believes this.

OR if they don't act and a child dies they are incompetent fuckwits who should all be sacked - look at Lisa A in the Baby P case. Her manager was mentally ill and kept calling staff meetings about voodoo, she had far too many cases to cope with and yet her head had to roll.

I don't think ANY other profession gets the kind of wholly undeserved prejudiced and ignorant lambasting that SW get.

I am so pleased to have found this thread as it seems to be mostly balanced and thoughtful comment - the one similar last year had me almost weeping with rage, not least at the complete inability of some posters to accept any version of events other than there own, however ill informed.

So this is much better.

As an aside, I still think if you dont want comments about your past, don't post stuff about it. I am able to read and comment on whatever I like here - it is a largely unregulated and public forum.

I have no problem with people commenting on my past but I do when my posts are used against me.

Imfab, I don't want to sound patronising, god forbid, but people will do whatever they want with your posts - you chose to make them on a public forum. There isn't some rule that we musn't comment.

And I think that was all it was 'comment'. I didn't perceive ANY poster trying to 'use your past against you' but simply making what I thought was a very uncontroversial point that you had expressed very extreme and distressing views about your past experiences; now, either that is something you have survived which will make you stronger and a better social worker because of it OR it is something that troubles you still and you had better deal with before taking on a very demanding professional role, which will make you confront those demons every single working day.

How is discussion along these lines 'using your past against you?

I think you have had some very helpful suggestions and I hope you do go on to investigate social work training - as I have said before, people are leaving the profession in droves and it is quite rare for me to see in court a British qualified social worker - loads from Poland and NZ, South Africa etc because LA have to go on recruitment drives abroad due to disastrous lack of home grown talent.

This causes HUGE problems, especially in London. I don't wish to generalise unfairly but on a number of occasions, clients of Afrcan origin have complained with some validity that the polish social workers have treated them in a racist way, possibly due to SW of recent Polish origin having much less experience and dealings with clients of African origin.

I knew child abuse was going on but i was so shocked when I joined a group on fb on just how many are being murdered everyday.So sad.Just getting over Tesslynn's story at the mo,Havent been able to sleep proparly since.Just makes my heart bleed tbh when I hear of children suffering

SS are absolutely rubbish! I have had personal experience of this in my life. Most SW do almost nothing to protect vulnerable children, they are badly trained and not even willing to learn. I am angry but not surprised.

I have seen SS for what they are in my life, useless bunch of no nothings who process paperwork and pick up cheques. They ignore the most obvious signs of abuse out of sheer laziness. Look at the case of Victoria Climbie. The SW was supposed to see the girl when she went to the house, she never bothered and so didn't see the physical signs of abuse.

obviously you had some bad experience,not all sw are useless lazy goodfornothings. and such sweeping generalisations really do not help.at all.every profession can point to poor practice and inadequate failing standard.be it medical,legal police,or sw

thing is a lot of the v v good work done never gets a heads up

the crisis work
the duty work
the medical/psych liaison and assessment
not all sw is child protection either

am certainly not overlooking or forgetting poor practice and notorious case reviews,but such gross generalisations must be challenged

Yes I know, thats why I said most as opposed to all. I know there are some good SW out there but not many. I attended a community school where half the children and a lot of my friends and contact with SW's and it was terrible.

had, not and. And I definitely should have specified that I was talking about child protection services. Good heads up scottishmummy.

poor child

but another here who agrees dont blame SS, blame the parents first of all. where was his Dad???

I wish they pay drug addicts and alcohol addicts to be sterilised, its frankly the only solution (in this climate) I can think of to eradicate such wrongs