Great. Another baby dead as social services fuck up - WARNING, DISTRESSING

[ImFab]

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I can't bear to hear another story of a beautiful baby dead because his mother wasn't capable of caring for him and social services weren't up to the job. When will they learn?

Here.

"But still, we can't dare suggest that people like this be forced to use long-term contraception." Good god of course not expat. After all this would be in breach of their human rights.

This is a horrific case.

I heard about it today, and almost wept. My own DC is not much younger than the one in the article.

But what is with the SS bashing? Was it not the negligence of the mother which led to the child dying? Yes it was.

If SS took every child in of parents who drank or who needed extra care to cope with their kids daily then where would we put them? Also, if we as SS did that then people would resume that old adage that SS are "childsnatchers".

It was a tragedy, a horrible accident. Not SS fault.

BTW, I haven't read all the thread, just saw the opening.

I'm a SW student so heard about this case from my tutor.

Will be able to read this better later when DS goes to bed and might comment more.

T

I would have no problem with the academic side. I would be too emotional to be a SW as I would want to take all the kids in care home.

DH and I have seriously considered fostering in the future. I doubt I would be approved though.

Well try reading the case review and you will see that far from 'bashing social workers', there is clear fault from a number of agencies. I don't see any social worker 'bashing', only criticism.

fifitot I have read the SCR now.

The SCR does highlight fault within a range of agencies and with the child's family. That makes total sense from a health and social care worker point of view.

It's the person in the street bashing SWers I have a problem with. Those who are ill-informed, opinionated and directing blame where none can be squarely levelled.

I do think SW in the UK has a bad press in general. It seems most people either don't know what we do, misunderstand it, or think we are all given magic powers of observation and prophesy when we qualify.

not sure why the sarcastic "not" seeing as you then go oon to agree with me Fab.

The fact that you want to help is great.
But look into things like Homestart or volunteering at a mother and baby unit, helping out at Sure start groups..all things that go a long way to get the messages about good positive parenting out to the masses.
things that do help those who may become at risk and yet still keep you relativly safe from the more in depth and emotionally draining aspects of SW.

I am sorry if my comment upset you, but the burn out for SW (even those without the traumatic background you have) is very short.

yogi - I am not agreeing with you. Me saying I wouldn't be approved is more to do with how I feel the assessors would treat me, not that I don't think I would be a good foster parent in time.

Sorry i didn;t mean the foster parenting, i meant your desire to work within SS.

And actually i think that if you had a good level of closure on your past and were emotionally stable now in your life then i think a knowlegde of the care system form teh childs PoV would be looked at favourably.

But you would need to show that you are suitably "over" your history and that it no longer caused you emotional harm.

are you two having a private spat.do you know each other. i certainly wouldnt traipse someone past across mn,bit indiscreet

You have to have distance is I think what Yogi is saying. You need an objective view.

Your experience was so intense as to give you a subjective view.

Your empathy and desire to help are brilliant but that doesn't qualify you to be as effective as were you to be coming at it from an angle of more objectivity.

iyswim

I do know how you feel though
I really do.

what SM? I havent traipsed anywhere. I have repsonded to what Fab has been posting on this thread.

Yes Ingrid, that is precisely what i mean

No one knows me on here.

I feel I would be a brilliant sw actually and can be totally objective when it is about someone else.

Just because I may have said things about having a crap upbringing doesn't mean I am happy about other people mentioning it and using as a stick to beat me with aiftm.

Someone having a degree in social work is not the be all and end all. You need more than that. Objectivity doesn't come with the degree pass.

stick to beat you with?

I'm sorry you feel that way.

You are right that no one is objective but there are degrees of objectivity and you would need to be very sure that you were not doing it in order to try to 'put right' what happened to you.

I know that sounds paradoxical but it's important.

You might be right; you might be superb. I was only trying to explain what Yogi might have meant.
I don't know you very well and have no real idea what you are like as a person.

I'm sorry for any offence perceived from my comments.

stop speculating about her personality and suitability,is quite nasty.and alluuding to stuff fab has posted elsewhere is indiscreet

I wouldn't be doing social work to put my past right. It has never crossed my mind and how the flip would it work anyway?

Thank you for your support SM .

I'm not speculating, SM. I've apologised for any offence, too.

Fab - you'd be amazed what people do to try and right a wrong from their past. I've done it SO much, and in far less admirable ways.

It's a weird trick your mind can play on you.

Bit complex to go into now as I have an email to write but I didn't mean it in a getting at you way, and you're not thick so you would get it if I explained it.

I'll let you continue with the thread now...and once more no offence intended.

you dont need to justify yourself or ambitions to anyone on mn,fab.protect yourself and take care

if you are serious about sw
look into access courses
shadow a sw
call a local college discuss access and nvq options
think about volunteering

qualified and registered SW you need a degree now-previously was diploma level but that phased out

family support worker
support worker
sw asst
similar but much less of a statutory role,and limited career structure

I will.

Ingrid, I know about mind tricks. I want to be a social worker for no other reason than I think I would be good at it and be able to help.

Thank you for the pointer and encouragement.

who the fuck mentioned anything from anywherebut this thread Sm? you are doing your usual and trying to start a fight in an empty room.

Fab - if you want to be a SW go for it. I was merely putting forward my opinion. it does not outweigh your own or anyone elses. i was merely pointing out that just from teh information you have given here i would suggest that you would find the day to day work of a SW more harrowing than most as you can personally relate to those you are trying to help.

As i said, the burn out rate for a SW in front line CPT is 3 years i think. That is for someone who has not had difficult and emotionally challenging past you have mentioned here

but if you think i am wrong then go ahead. you do what you think best for you.